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[Acme] draft minutes from june 2 interim

"Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> Fri, 02 June 2017 19:43 UTC

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
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There were about 20 people present on the call.  It lasted about 50 minutes.  Would those who were on the call please post corrections here?  Thank you.


>                Hugo's CAA draft (already adopted, short, might be ready for WGLC) -- https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-acme-caa-01

Chairs will call for consensus on moving to WGLC.

>                Yaron Sheffer et al draft on STAR -- https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sheffer-acme-star-lurk-00

There was discussion on how this overlaps with the tls-subcert document. After some discussion, there was good consensus to ask that this be split into two parts (the ACME-related revalidation and the CDN-related deployment) and the chairs will ask for consensus on adoption.  The split will happen before or after adoption.

>                Mary Barnes on an ACME challenge for ATIS/SIP -- https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-barnes-acme-service-provider-00

There was some discussion, but strong consensus to adopt this by the WG.  Chairs will confirm on the list.

>               And also Jon Peterson et al https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-peterson-acme-telephone-00

Also similar discussion.  General agreement to also adopt this, and keep in close contact with STIR to make sure things progress properly.
 
>                Roland Shoemaker on an ACME challenge for validating IP addresses -- https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-shoemaker-acme-ip-00

Briefly discussed; Yaron requested clarification on the use-case before considering adoption.

> In addition, Alexey is interested in helping with an ACME challenge for email certificates. Is anyone else interested in helping to draft drafting?

Alex posted a draft just before the meeting.  Consensus was to split the SMTP-server related part and the user S/MIME related part and work on them separately.

At the end of the meeting, Kathleen pointed out that Ted has a new role as IAB Chair, and wants to step down from ACME co-chair. The plan would be to have a new co-chair for Prague, and then after the Prague meeting, for Ted to abandonXXXXXX relinquish the co-chair role.  If you are interested in volunteering, please let Kathleen (and perhaps ekr and the current chairs) know.

Related to this, the ACME base document is almost done. The Chairs strongly encouraged Richard et al to finish by mid-June so that we could enter WGLC and address any issues that might come up (if any do) at the Prague meeting.

Please send/post any corrections by mid-next-week so that we can start the calls for adoption right away.

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