Re: [Acme] Server on >= 1024 port

Eric Mill <eric@konklone.com> Thu, 03 December 2015 01:20 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Acme] Server on >= 1024 port
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On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 6:12 PM, Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx> wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 6:07 PM, James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> "RB" == Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx> writes:
> >
> > RB> If you look at what CAs do today, that basically means the port is
> > RB> 80/443.  More generally, it means that the port needs to be specified
> > RB> by the challenge mechanism and not by the client.
> >
> > What CAs do any kind of challenge over anything other than smtp?
>
> Let's Encrypt and WoSign spring immediately to mind.  They both do
> web-based validation.
>
> SSLMate also supports HTTP-based validation, and their certs are
> issued by real CAs.
>

SSLMate also supports DNS-based validation (and since SSLMate is a
downstream provider of multiple upstream CAs, such as Comodo, each upstream
CA necessarily supports the same validation mechanism).

-- Eric


> So it's out there.
>
> --Richard
>
>
> > Tcp port numbers have no significance to "control of a domain".
> >
> > Or "control of a hostname", since the certs are issued for hostnames and
> > not for domain names.
> >
> > -JimC
> > --
> > James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com>         OpenPGP: 0x997A9F17ED7DAEA6
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