Re: [Add] Participation

"Patrik Fältström " <paf@frobbit.se> Thu, 22 August 2019 05:56 UTC

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From: Patrik Fältström <paf@frobbit.se>
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Thanks for the information.

  Patrik

On 21 Aug 2019, at 20:24, sthaug@nethelp.no wrote:

>> As myself and others have said many times on this list, court orders have ordered access providers in many legislations to block access to certain "things". Some of these court orders are sealed, and of course people are trying to get their hands on the orders, validate whether they are correct and what not.
>>
>> With "things" I have seen everything from IP addresses via domain names to URLs.
>>
>> I have not seen any explicit statements in the court orders I have seen how this is to be implemented, so the implementation is up to the access provider. There might very well exist such details, and I am happy to see what they contain.
>
> There have been several verdicts in the Oslo District Court ordering Norwegian ISPs to prevent access to certain domains - and to implement this explicitly using DNS blocking.
>
> One such verdict from 2015 is available here (in Norwegian):
>
> https://docplayer.me/2483170-Oslo-tingrett-kjennelse-01-09-2015-i-oslo-tingrett-15-067093tvi-otir-05-tingrettsdommer-jon-ostensvig-1-warner-bros-entertainment-norge-as.html
>
> The latest verdict we received is from 01.06.2018, court reference number is 18-039103TVI-OTIR/02. Excerpt from the text:
>
> "
> <List of ISPs> pålegges:
>
> - å hindre eller vanskeliggjøre kundenes tilgang til LiveTV ved å
> iverksette DNS-blokkering av følgende domenenavn med subdomener:
> livetv.sx, livetvcdn.net, ...
> "
>
> <same paragraph repeated for several other sites: EPLSite,
> Livefootballol, Cricfree>
>
> The key phrase is "DNS-blokkering", i.e. DNS domain name blocking.
>
> In these cases the court verdicts are of course openly available, with the full list of domain names the ISPs are required to block.
>
> I happen to work for one of the ISPs required to perform such blocking. *In the context of such a verdict* it is completely irrelevant for us how effective (or ineffective) such domain name blocking is - we are simply required by the court to perform domain name blocking.
>
> Steinar Haug, AS2116
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