Re: [Add] [Ext] antitrust implications of IETF resolver discovery protocol work

Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@icann.org> Tue, 24 March 2020 00:22 UTC

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From: Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@icann.org>
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On Mar 23, 2020, at 5:17 PM, Tony Rutkowski <rutkowski.tony@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Has anyone done an analysis of the antitrust implications of this work under an IETF aegis?  Has the IETF Trust bought off on this?

Not that has reported to this group.

> The work here is similar that undertaken for The Handle System, and the CNRI work in ITU to develop X.1255 and related treaty instrument resolutions.

In what way is it "similar"? Various ways of doing discovery have been done for over 30 years.

--Paul Hoffman