Re: [addr-select-dt] slide to 6man presentation
Tim Chown <tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk> Mon, 26 July 2010 15:29 UTC
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I think Tony's ICMP hint is worth mentioning in that it should fit into the Troan draft discussion, as it's a possible (part) solution to that problem... Tim On 26 Jul 2010, at 13:35, Tony Hain wrote: > I can present it, and don't have any further comments other than a TBD > reference for pulling the 'try addr sel again' ICMP from > draft-hain-ipv6-fwrh-03.txt > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: addr-select-dt-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:addr-select-dt- >> bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Arifumi Matsumoto >> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 11:31 AM >> To: Tim Chown >> Cc: addr-select-dt@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [addr-select-dt] slide to 6man presentation >> >> Thank you for comments. >> I'll update. >> >> BTW, I saw Tony here in Maastricht. >> Can you present ?? >> >> >> On 2010/07/26, at 18:13, Tim Chown wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Some comments.... >>> >>> - the DT draft is missed from the slides: draft-ietf-6man-addr- >> select-considerations-02 >>> >>> May wish to have a slide summarising the most recent focuses in that >> draft, for example including some/all of: >>> >>> - frequent policy changes are linked to having either rapid traffic >> engineering changes/external routing changes or lots of mobile nodes >> within the site moving between points of attachment with different >> policies >>> >>> - it seems sensible to acquire RFC3484 policy when acquiring other >> configuration information >>> >>> - in a managed enterprise there is likely to be a managed policy, and >> DHCP available >>> >>> - in dynamic/unmanaged networks using routing hints for address >> selection *may* be more appropriate >>> >>> - the problem of handling policy conflict is a host issue, the method >> to distribute the policy is a network issue - we focus here on the >> network issue since the host issue is broadly applicable to many >> configuration parameters >>> >>> - we should avoid delaying progression of a 3484 policy distribution >> method applicable to managed enterprise networks >>> >>> I think this material could fit in a new Slide 3 and then you >> continue the arifumi-6man-addr-select-conflict reference after that, to >> keep the flow. >>> >>> I see a new Troan multihoming draft came out this morning, I've not >> checked what changes there are yet. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Tim >>> >>> On 24 Jul 2010, at 23:49, Arifumi Matsumoto wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I drafted the slide for 6man. >>>> This version still has some clear errors, so >>>> I have to fix them. >>>> >>>> I really want you all to comment on this. >>>> About the story itself, wording, typos, and whatever. >>>> >>>> <ietf78-6man-dt.pdf>_______________________________________________ >>>> addr-select-dt mailing list >>>> addr-select-dt@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/addr-select-dt >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> addr-select-dt mailing list >>> addr-select-dt@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/addr-select-dt >> >> _______________________________________________ >> addr-select-dt mailing list >> addr-select-dt@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/addr-select-dt >
- [addr-select-dt] slide to 6man presentation Arifumi Matsumoto
- Re: [addr-select-dt] slide to 6man presentation Arifumi Matsumoto
- Re: [addr-select-dt] slide to 6man presentation Tim Chown
- Re: [addr-select-dt] slide to 6man presentation Arifumi Matsumoto
- Re: [addr-select-dt] slide to 6man presentation Arifumi Matsumoto
- Re: [addr-select-dt] slide to 6man presentation Arifumi Matsumoto
- Re: [addr-select-dt] slide to 6man presentation Tony Hain
- Re: [addr-select-dt] slide to 6man presentation Arifumi Matsumoto
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- Re: [addr-select-dt] slide to 6man presentation Arifumi Matsumoto
- Re: [addr-select-dt] slide to 6man presentation teemu.savolainen
- Re: [addr-select-dt] slide to 6man presentation Arifumi Matsumoto
- Re: [addr-select-dt] slide to 6man presentation Tim Chown
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