[Agentproto] Re: Delegation and evidence: a concrete candidate for the charter discussion

Blake Morrison <blake@truealter.com> Fri, 02 October 2026 09:26 UTC

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Hi Doug, Bradley, Eric,

Eric, sincere apologies for the prolonged wait. The problem statement
for the delegation row is below.

The grant gets made once with the person there. The agent acts on it
later and unattended, at an endpoint in another organisation that never
saw the grant. OAuth and WIMSE can show the authority exists and who it
was issued to but not that this particular action falls inside it
because the grant was fixed before the request existed.

Doug has the ordering "independently verifiable later, rather than
merely asserted by the party being evaluated" and Bradley asks whether
it "could have been stated otherwise" by a party whose conduct or
assertion is material. In delegation the person who made the grant is
one of those parties. If the protocol carries nothing about them
neither test has anyone to name.

Blake