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Re: [alto] [ALU] Re: Ben Campbell's No Objection on draft-ietf-alto-deployments-15:(with COMMENT)

"Vijay K. Gurbani" <vkg@bell-labs.com> Wed, 29 June 2016 13:15 UTC

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From: "Vijay K. Gurbani" <vkg@bell-labs.com>
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Subject: Re: [alto] [ALU] Re: Ben Campbell's No Objection on draft-ietf-alto-deployments-15:(with COMMENT)
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On 06/29/2016 01:22 AM, joel jaeggli wrote:
>> On 6/28/16 11:14 PM, Ben Campbell wrote:
>> There lies my confusion. Why would a patent application that cites this
>> document cause an IPR disclosure against this document? Seems backwards
>> to me.
>
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3979#page-9
>
> 6.1.3.  IPR of Others
>
>    If a person has information about IPR that may Cover IETF
>    Contributions, but the participant is not required to disclose
>    because they do not meet the criteria in Section 6.6 (e.g., the IPR
>    is owned by some other company), such person is encouraged to notify
>    the IETF by sending an email message to ietf-ipr@ietf.org.  Such a
>    notice should be sent as soon as reasonably possible after the person
>    realizes the connection.

As the WG co-chair and document shephered ... so, what is the expected
process to relieve the burden of such IPR declarations and move the work
ahead?  I scanned rfc3979 but did not find any advisory text related to
such third-party IPR notifications.

Thanks,

- vijay
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