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Re: [alto] Ben Campbell's No Objection on draft-ietf-alto-deployments-15: (with COMMENT)

joel jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com> Wed, 29 June 2016 06:23 UTC

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Subject: Re: [alto] Ben Campbell's No Objection on draft-ietf-alto-deployments-15: (with COMMENT)
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On 6/28/16 11:14 PM, Ben Campbell wrote:
> On 29 Jun 2016, at 0:59, joel jaeggli wrote:
> 
>> On 6/28/16 7:48 PM, Ben Campbell wrote:
>>> Ben Campbell has entered the following ballot position for
>>> draft-ietf-alto-deployments-15: No Objection
>>>
>>> When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all
>>> email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this
>>> introductory paragraph, however.)
>>>
>>>
>>> Please refer to
>>> https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html
>>> for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions.
>>>
>>>
>>> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-alto-deployments/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> COMMENT:
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> There's a 2 day old (at the time of this writing) IPR disclosure. It
>>> seems rather unusual, and I am not sure of the intent.
>>
>> they are third party ipr declarations and they are in fact the product
>> of reviewing the document:
>>
>> from the review of cpignata@cisco.com Carlos Pignataro.
>>
>> Major:
>>
>> 1. I came across two patent applications in which the examiners add this
>> document as a non-patent citation. The document has no IPR disclosures,
>> and authors seem to have responded to IPR calls.
> 
> There lies my confusion. Why would a patent application that cites this
> document cause an IPR disclosure against this document? Seems backwards
> to me.

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3979#page-9

6.1.3.  IPR of Others

   If a person has information about IPR that may Cover IETF
   Contributions, but the participant is not required to disclose
   because they do not meet the criteria in Section 6.6 (e.g., the IPR
   is owned by some other company), such person is encouraged to notify
   the IETF by sending an email message to ietf-ipr@ietf.org.  Such a
   notice should be sent as soon as reasonably possible after the person
   realizes the connection.



>>
>> I will submit 3rd party disclosures for these now, there may be more:
>> http://www.google.com/patents/EP2913979A1#npl-citations
>> http://www.google.com/patents/WO2016039798A1#npl-citations
>>
>>
>>>
>

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