Re: [alto] Paul Wouters' Discuss on draft-ietf-alto-cost-mode-03: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com> Thu, 02 June 2022 19:08 UTC

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Subject: Re: [alto] Paul Wouters' Discuss on draft-ietf-alto-cost-mode-03: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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I discussed this with Paul. Can we add a sentence about what to do if the
received string is more than 32 characters?

On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 9:24 PM <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> wrote:

> Hi Paul,
>
> Thank you for the review.
>
> Please see inline.
>
> Cheers,
> Med
>
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : Paul Wouters via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org>
> > Envoyé : jeudi 2 juin 2022 05:12
> > À : The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
> > Cc : draft-ietf-alto-cost-mode@ietf.org; alto-chairs@ietf.org;
> > alto@ietf.org; kaigao@scu.edu.cn; kaigao@scu.edu.cn
> > Objet : Paul Wouters' Discuss on draft-ietf-alto-cost-mode-03:
> > (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
> >
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> > draft-ietf-alto-cost-mode-03: Discuss
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> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > ----
> > DISCUSS:
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > ----
> >
> > Probably an easily answered issue, but I am not too familiar with
> > ALTO.
> >
> >      The string MUST be no more than 32 characters, and it MUST
> > NOT contain
> >      characters other than [...]
> >
> > Are there implementations that already deployed a cost string with
> > more than 32
> > characters or characters not in this newly imposed set of
> > characters?
>
> [Med] No.
>
>  What
> > should happen if that is in use? That is, is this protocol
> > modification
> > potentially breaking interoperability with older implementations?
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > ----
> > COMMENT:
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > ----
> >
> > While no fan of "patch RFCs", thank you for at least putting the
> > OLD and NEW
> > text in one document, so an implementer and reviewer doesn't have
> > to switch
> > between documents and get confused about what was read was the old
> > doc or new
> > doc.
> >
> > That said, patching in the text "This document" feels a little
> > weird. What RFC
> > does "This document" then refer to? Perhaps change "This document
> > defines two
> > cost modes" to "Two cost modes are defined".
>
> [Med] OK.
>
> >
> >      Future documents that define a new cost mode SHOULD indicate
> >
> > I think that SHOULD can be a MUST.
>
> [Med] We don't use MUST here because we do have a default behavior
> specified in the sentence right after: "If not explicitly indicated, the
> new cost mode applies to all cost metrics."
>
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