Re: [alto] Paul Wouters' Discuss on draft-ietf-alto-cost-mode-03: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com> Thu, 02 June 2022 19:12 UTC

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Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2022 12:12:01 -0700
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Subject: Re: [alto] Paul Wouters' Discuss on draft-ietf-alto-cost-mode-03: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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I see now that 8.5 of RFC 7285 covers this, so please disregard

On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 12:07 PM Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com> wrote:

> I discussed this with Paul. Can we add a sentence about what to do if the
> received string is more than 32 characters?
>
> On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 9:24 PM <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> Thank you for the review.
>>
>> Please see inline.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Med
>>
>> > -----Message d'origine-----
>> > De : Paul Wouters via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org>
>> > Envoyé : jeudi 2 juin 2022 05:12
>> > À : The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
>> > Cc : draft-ietf-alto-cost-mode@ietf.org; alto-chairs@ietf.org;
>> > alto@ietf.org; kaigao@scu.edu.cn; kaigao@scu.edu.cn
>> > Objet : Paul Wouters' Discuss on draft-ietf-alto-cost-mode-03:
>> > (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
>> >
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>> > draft-ietf-alto-cost-mode-03: Discuss
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>> >
>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > ----
>> > DISCUSS:
>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > ----
>> >
>> > Probably an easily answered issue, but I am not too familiar with
>> > ALTO.
>> >
>> >      The string MUST be no more than 32 characters, and it MUST
>> > NOT contain
>> >      characters other than [...]
>> >
>> > Are there implementations that already deployed a cost string with
>> > more than 32
>> > characters or characters not in this newly imposed set of
>> > characters?
>>
>> [Med] No.
>>
>>  What
>> > should happen if that is in use? That is, is this protocol
>> > modification
>> > potentially breaking interoperability with older implementations?
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > ----
>> > COMMENT:
>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > ----
>> >
>> > While no fan of "patch RFCs", thank you for at least putting the
>> > OLD and NEW
>> > text in one document, so an implementer and reviewer doesn't have
>> > to switch
>> > between documents and get confused about what was read was the old
>> > doc or new
>> > doc.
>> >
>> > That said, patching in the text "This document" feels a little
>> > weird. What RFC
>> > does "This document" then refer to? Perhaps change "This document
>> > defines two
>> > cost modes" to "Two cost modes are defined".
>>
>> [Med] OK.
>>
>> >
>> >      Future documents that define a new cost mode SHOULD indicate
>> >
>> > I think that SHOULD can be a MUST.
>>
>> [Med] We don't use MUST here because we do have a default behavior
>> specified in the sentence right after: "If not explicitly indicated, the
>> new cost mode applies to all cost metrics."
>>
>>
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