Re: [alto] Work related to ALTO at IETF82

Richard Alimi <rich@velvetsea.net> Wed, 16 November 2011 01:08 UTC

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Hi Vijay,

On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Vijay K. Gurbani <vkg@bell-labs.com> wrote:
> On 11/14/2011 07:34 PM, Richard Alimi wrote:
>>
>> draft-gu-alto-redistribution was originally intended to provide
>> information about how one might implement redistribution, but
>> (intentionally) we did not provide actual protocol specifications
>> due to the variety of P2P protocols in the wild.  The dependency was
>> non-normative.  If it seems "weird" to link to that from a
>> standards-track document (i.e. even if we split Section 8 into a
>> separate document) then that could be removed - it was only intended
>> to give readers a pointer for how they might get started.
>
> Rich: Thanks for the clarification.  More inline.
>
>> If on the other hand, it makes sense to revive
>> draft-gu-alto-redistribution and add it as a WG item we could do
>> that too - back when we were presenting it it seemed like it didn't
>> gain much traction, but if thinks have changed, then great :)
>
> Pedantically speaking, draft-gu-alto-redistribution was never a
> WG item, it was an individual document.  Thus, it can continue
> in the same vein until such time that the WG decides how to handle
> information redistribution.
>
> Your original proposal of splitting out Section 8 (Redistribution) from
> draft-ietf-alto-protocol as an extension, and thus make it normatively
> dependent on the outcome of JOSE WG is still sound (again, as an
> individual contributor).  It has my "+1" vote.
>
> Assuming that the WG agrees to this, then draft-gu-alto-redistribution
> could very well serve as the vessel for moving the redistribution
> work ahead.  At some point, the charter will be expanded to include
> extensions (the chairs will have to get their act together on this
> one :-) ).
>
> I am aware of at least two possible threads of work in progress
> (redistribution and multi-cost) that could qualify as extensions to the
> base protocol.

Sounds perfect to me.  Not quite sure how far we should go in terms of
making draft-go-alto-redistribution normative, but that's a topic for
later :)

Thanks,
Rich

> Thanks,
>
> - vijay
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> Vijay K. Gurbani, Bell Laboratories, Alcatel-Lucent
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