Re: [Anima] I-D Action: draft-ietf-anima-network-service-auto-deployment-02.txt

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Mon, 18 July 2022 03:59 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Anima] I-D Action: draft-ietf-anima-network-service-auto-deployment-02.txt
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Hi,

I have a few questions and comments on this draft. Please consider them at the same time as any discussion in the meeting at IETF 114.

>  1. Introduction
...
> From the network perspective, this kind of service has a source IP address and a destination IP address. 

Are these always unicast addresses? Are there any cases in which one of the addresses might change (e.g. a node moves from a wired connection to WiFi, or moves from one WiFi subnet to another)?

Also, do you consider the case where a node fails and must be replaced automatically by another?

Perhaps my real question is this: Does the model cover *renegotiation* when the resource status changes unexpectedly?

I think your answer is yes, but that makes the statement about "a source address" and "a destination address" questionable, if both addresses might change.

>  5. Autonomic Resource Management Objectives
...
> objective-value = n-s-deployment-value ; An n-s-deployment-value is defined as Figure-2.
> 
>  n-s-deployment-value
>      + service-information
>          + source-ip-address
>          + destination-ip-address
>          + service-tag
>      + resource-information
>          + resource-requirement-pair
>              + resource-type
>              + resource-value
> 
> Figure-2: Format of n-s-deployment-value

I don't understand Figure 2. It looks like YANG rather than CDDL. There is an approved draft on YANG to CBOR in the RFC Editor queue (draft-ietf-core-yang-cbor).  It's presumably OK to specify a GRASP objective value in YANG, with the mapping to CBOR defined by draft-ietf-core-yang-cbor, but if that is the plan, please state it precisely in the draft, with the necessary references.

>  6.3. An example of multiple domain network 

It may be useful to mention that this situation (an ASA facing two different domains) is described in the Security Considerations of RFC9222 as a possible loophole. What rules are necessary to prevent any unwanted actions across the domain boundary?

>  7. Compatibility with Other Technologies 

I think this section needs to discuss DetNet. I do not follow the work in DetNet but they must be discussing resource allocation. Could ANIMA be the correct solution for DetNet?

>  8. Security Considerations 

We did not consider authorization of individual nodes so far in ANIMA. Does resource management need to consider authorization?

Regards
     Brian

On 08-Jul-22 18:17, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
> 
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
> This draft is a work item of the Autonomic Networking Integrated Model and Approach WG of the IETF.
> 
>          Title           : An Autonomic Mechanism for Resource-based Network Services Auto-deployment
>          Authors         : Joanna Dang
>                            Sheng Jiang
>                            Zongpeng Du
>                            Yujing
>    Filename        : draft-ietf-anima-network-service-auto-deployment-02.txt
>    Pages           : 14
>    Date            : 2022-07-07
> 
> Abstract:
>     This document specifies an autonomic mechanism for resource-based
>     network services deployment through the Autonomic Control Plane (ACP)
>     in a network.  This mechanism uses the GeneRic Autonomic Signaling
>     Protocol (GRASP) in [RFC8990] to exchange the information among the
>     autonomic nodes so that the resource along the service path can be
>     coordinated.
> 
> 
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-anima-network-service-auto-deployment/
> 
> There is also an htmlized version available at:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-anima-network-service-auto-deployment-02
> 
> A diff from the previous version is available at:
> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-anima-network-service-auto-deployment-02
> 
> 
> Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts
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