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Re: [Anima] Errata 6642: Re: Registrar to MASA connections: SNI required

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Mon, 12 February 2024 14:02 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Anima] Errata 6642: Re: Registrar to MASA connections: SNI required
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Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:
    > agile. But SNI is one such example, where the pledge does need to
    > signal the right info (SNI) to enable "cheaper" cloud registrars, aka:
    > those not owning a separate IPv4 address. See e.g.: AWS cost for IPv4
    > address.

Right, but it's self-righting.
A manufacturer that uses an SNI-only cloud registrar and does not do SNI will
fail immediately: they won't get out of the lab.  And the manufacturer
controls both initial sides of this.

Where we could go into trouble is when there are 307 redirects.

    > Lets just agree on the final text for this errata so Rob can close the
    > book on it.

Pledges MUST include SNI for 1.2 and 1.3.

(Registrar's with provisional-TLS connections MUST ignore the SNI: they can
not be virtual-hosted)

If you didn't like my errata text, then let's come back to that.
(I wish errata was on gitlab)

https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid6642

says:
Held for Document Update by: Rob Wilton
Date Held: 2024-01-15

so we get another chance to fix the text when we do a document update.
Does the text that is there upset you?

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