Re: [Anima] chain of redirections for Cloud Registrar

Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> Mon, 14 June 2021 16:09 UTC

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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2021 18:09:42 +0200
From: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
To: Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org>
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Subject: Re: [Anima] chain of redirections for Cloud Registrar
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I think multiple redirects can make a lot of sense, as Mcr said for resale chains for example.
I wouldn't be too bothered with DoS attacks an attepting to come up with a tiny number.
I'd rather go with a number larger than what i can think of being useful. 10 for example.
I could build a load-sharing ring with that ("I am busy, try next") of reasonable size.

I my pet topic of course is diagnostics of non-malicious misconfigs.

So, when a pledge is redirected from
https://domain3.com/.well-known/brski/requestvoucher
 https://domain4.com/.well-known/brski/requestvoucher

Could we make the pledge actually do the get with a breadcrump trail:

 On  https://domain4.com connection:
 GET /.well-known/brski/requestvoucher?brskiredirpath=domain3.com,domain2.com,domain.com

That way, domain4 would know wherer the pledge came from.

Cheers
    Toerless

On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 07:41:18AM +0200, Carsten Bormann wrote:
> On 13. Jun 2021, at 04:22, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> wrote:
> > 
> >  "another web origin" --- I guess I don't know what this means.
> 
> See RFC 6454 "The Web Origin Concept???.
> 
> In short, scheme + authority.
> 
> >   Does it mean redirecting from https://one.example/foo to https://two.example/bar,
> 
> Different origins https://one.example vs. https://two.example
> 
> >   or does it refer to https://one.example/foo to https://one.example/bar    etc.
> 
> Same origin https://one.example
> 
> I don???t like the term that much, but it is in wide use in the combination ???Same origin principle???.
> In RFC 7252, we use ???Origin server??? to identify the serving endpoint.
> (Of course, ???endpoint" has been hijacked as a needless synonym of ???resource??? in OAuth.)
> 
> Somebody should write a Web terminology glossary :-)
> 
> Grüße, Carsten
> 
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