Re: [Anima] Adoption call for draft-liu-anima-grasp-api-06, ends Dec. 12, 2017

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Fri, 08 December 2017 19:01 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Anima] Adoption call for draft-liu-anima-grasp-api-06, ends Dec. 12, 2017
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On 09/12/2017 06:03, Michael Richardson wrote:
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> I am saying this because I believe that there are simply unknown unknowns
> here, which we will only discover once people attempt attempt to build
> non-trivial ASAs. 

I completely agree. (In fact, the same is true of GRASP itself,
which can quite easily be extended if we discover that new message
types are needed.) In particular, there's the question of exactly
how much of the protocol state machine is hidden behind the API,
and how much can be controlled by the ASA itself. Only experience
will tell us the correct answer.

>   1) progress this document very quickly with the intention of doing
>      a -bis in two or three years.

I'd prefer that approach, to encourage ASA prototyping as soon as
possible.

(Well, that's what I've already done, and everyone is invited to
join in: https://github.com/becarpenter/graspy/blob/master/graspy.pdf)

   Brian