Re: [apps-discuss] RFC 6657 on Update to MIME regarding "charset" Parameter Handling in Textual Media Types

Graham Klyne <Graham.Klyne@zoo.ox.ac.uk> Tue, 10 July 2012 17:34 UTC

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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] RFC 6657 on Update to MIME regarding "charset" Parameter Handling in Textual Media Types
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Alexey, thanks.

#g
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On 10/07/2012 17:19, Alexey Melnikov wrote:
> Hi Graham,
>
> On 10/07/2012 09:14, Graham Klyne wrote:
>> On 10/07/2012 01:07, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org wrote:
>>>
>>> A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries.
>>>
>>>
>>> RFC 6657
>>>
>>> Title: Update to MIME regarding "charset"
>>> Parameter Handling in Textual Media Types
>>
>> I didn't see this one coming. I'm a bit confused by the specification.
>>
>> If we define a media type that is *always* UTF-8, does this count as
>> transporting its own charset information? Should we say that the media type
>
> I think you meant the "charset" parameter.
>
>> SHOULD NOT be included, or that it SHOULD be included with value UTF-8?
>> Section 3 implies the latter, but it also talks about media types defining
>> their own default encoding.
>
> For backward compatibility with RFC 2045 it would be better to require explicit
> 'charset="utf-8"', but not allowing the charset parameter and saying that the
> payload for your text/foo media type is always in UTF-8 is fine.
>
>> (This is not an academic question - a W3C group I'm involved with is about to
>> submit a registration for a UTF-8 only text/... media type)
>>
>> #g
>> --
>>
>>> Author: A. Melnikov, J. Reschke
>>> Status: Standards Track
>>> Stream: IETF
>>> Date: July 2012
>>> Mailbox: Alexey.Melnikov@isode.com,
>>> julian.reschke@greenbytes.de
>>> Pages: 6
>>> Characters: 10111
>>> Updates: RFC2046
>>>
>>> I-D Tag: draft-ietf-appsawg-mime-default-charset-04.txt
>>>
>>> URL: http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6657.txt
>>>
>>> This document changes RFC 2046 rules regarding default "charset"
>>> parameter values for "text/*" media types to better align with common
>>> usage by existing clients and servers. [STANDARDS-TRACK]
>>>
>>> This document is a product of the Applications Area Working Group Working
>>> Group of the IETF.
>>>
>>> This is now a Proposed Standard Protocol.
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