Re: [apps-discuss] Status of "Spam reporting using IMAP: SREP" draft

[John C Klensin <[e-mail]>]

--On Friday, June 29, 2012 19:29 +0100 Alexey Melnikov
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> Dear WG participants,
> Some time ago WG chairs have issues acceptance call for:
> 
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ordogh-spam-reporting-using-i
> map-02
> 
> I think WG Chairs failed to emphasize that RIM filed an IPR
> declaration on the document:
> 
>   https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1609/
> 
> Chairs would like to confirm that the WG is still interested
> in working on the document in presence of this IPR declaration.

IANAL, but...

(1) I have no idea what "subject to rights of reciprocity and
suspension or termination for assertion against a third party"
means in practice. In particular, not being a lawyer, I have no
idea if RIM is asserting that they would revoke the license to
practice the claimed invention if someone asserted any IPR claim
against RIM or only one associated with this particular
technology.  I am not asking for an interpretation here, or a
discussion of that language.   But I am anxious about our taking
on an individual draft that is claimed to be encumbered
especially since...

(2) This says it is an unpublished application, which means that
participants in the IETF have way to examine exactly what is
being claimed and hence no basis to evaluate those claims.

Unless someone not associated with RIM can successfully argue
that it is urgent to process this work in the IETF, I would
prefer to defer it until either the licensing language is
crystal clear (even to non-specialists), the final claims can be
examined, or, preferably, both.

Just IMO, of course.
     john