Re: [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/suggestion
Mikael Nordfeldth <mmn@hethane.se> Wed, 31 October 2012 10:42 UTC
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:42:31 +0100
From: Mikael Nordfeldth <mmn@hethane.se>
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31.10.2012 10:17 skrev Stephen Farrell: > Maybe we should try get a few folks who care about this into > a huddle in ATL if some of those who're interested will be > there? (If the Sunday reception worked then on Monday morning > Paul might be able to say something more than "we have insane > privacy nuts" :-) > > S. > > PS: Not wearing any hats and all that. Except the tinfoil one? ;-) Either way I think it is important to remember that what Webfinger is basically just standardise the way humans, machines and our future androids will lookup information about pseudonyms. It does not in any way _produce_ more information. Whatever reason you have to worry about the "hidden lookups" (which initiated this thread) or personal data collection/correlation, are not new issues created by Webfinger. The only thing WF maybe does is make it more obvious that such things can - and perhaps even do - occur. The data is already out there, on zillions of forums, communities, mailing lists etc, where users "ooze" their personal data. I see a great opportunity in that transparency, the fact that maybe internet users can Also, Stephen and whomever else is concerned. If you (or "normal people" or "privacy nuts") do not trust the service or application you run to handle your (or others') privacy well, I heavily recommend you to stop using it. Or simply don't give out data that can be correlated with whatever you don't want it correlated with. If one is concerned with privacy and the service or software won't let you switch off this "oozing", simply stop using it (or make sure you use it in a privacy-minded manner). If it, say, uses Webfinger you can yourself verify it doesn't reveal any inappropriate data - or just stop using the service. And if a third party somehow aggregates information about you without your consent, it's definitely a privacy issue and even illegal in many jurisdictions. If that is the case, it should be acted upon through court of law. Not by modifying suggested internet protocol standards. -- Mikael Nordfeldth http://blog.mmn-o.se/ mmn@hethane.se +46705657637
- [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/suggest… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/sug… SM
- Re: [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/sug… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/sug… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/sug… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/sug… James M Snell
- Re: [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/sug… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/sug… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/sug… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/sug… Blaine Cook
- Re: [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/sug… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/sug… SM
- Re: [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/sug… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/sug… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/sug… James M Snell
- Re: [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/sug… SM
- Re: [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/sug… Evan Prodromou
- Re: [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/sug… James M Snell
- Re: [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/sug… Evan Prodromou
- Re: [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/sug… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/sug… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/sug… SM
- Re: [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/sug… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/sug… Mikael Nordfeldth
- Re: [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/sug… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/sug… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/sug… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/sug… SM
- Re: [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/sug… SM
- Re: [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/sug… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/sug… James M Snell
- Re: [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/sug… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/sug… Evan Prodromou
- Re: [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/sug… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/sug… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/sug… James M Snell
- Re: [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/sug… James M Snell
- Re: [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/sug… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/sug… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/sug… William Mills
- Re: [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/sug… William Mills
- Re: [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/sug… William Mills
- Re: [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/sug… Gonzalo Salgueiro
- [apps-discuss] Private fields in Webfinger output… Evan Prodromou
- [apps-discuss] Using obfuscated resource identifi… Evan Prodromou
- Re: [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/sug… SM
- Re: [apps-discuss] Using obfuscated resource iden… Evan Prodromou
- Re: [apps-discuss] webfinger privacy question/sug… Joe Gregorio