Re: [appsdir] [apps-discuss] Review of: draft-ietf-decade-problem-statement-05
SM <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> Thu, 22 March 2012 20:37 UTC
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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 13:19:01 -0700
To: Dave Crocker <dcrocker@bbiw.net>
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Subject: Re: [appsdir] [apps-discuss] Review of: draft-ietf-decade-problem-statement-05
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Hi Dave, At 12:17 22-03-2012, Dave Crocker wrote: > From a quick read, it looks as if Carsten's opinion of that > document matches mine for the one's I read. Yes. >Unfortunately, this working group appears to have spent 2 years to >produce inconsistent work that tends to surface issues only, >IMO. Worse is that I think the goal they want to work towards would >be useful to achieve... draft-ietf-decade-problem-statement is in an Approved (document) state. draft-ietf-decade-reqs-06 and draft-ietf-decade-arch-05 have not been through IESG evaluation yet. Let's see if the working group can make constructive use of the three AppsDir reviews. Best regards, -sm