[aqm] FW: [tsvwg] New Liaison Statement, "Explicit Congestion Notification for Lower Layer Protocols"
"Scheffenegger, Richard" <rs@netapp.com> Tue, 21 July 2015 19:02 UTC
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Subject: [aqm] FW: [tsvwg] New Liaison Statement, "Explicit Congestion Notification for Lower Layer Protocols"
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> Title: Explicit Congestion Notification for Lower Layer Protocols > Submission Date: 2015-07-20 > URL of the IETF Web page: https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1424/ > Please reply by 2015-10-30 > From: Transport Area Working Group (David Black <david.black@emc.com>) > To: 3GPP (Susanna.Kooistra@etsi.org) > Cc: Gonzalo Camarillo <gonzalo.camarillo@ericsson.com>,Gorry Fairhurst > <gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk>,Martin Stiemerling <mls.ietf@gmail.com>,Spencer > Dawkins <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com>,John Kaippallimalil > <John.Kaippallimalil@huawei.com>,Bob Briscoe > <ietf@bobbriscoe.net>,Transport Area Working Group Discussion List > <tsvwg@ietf.org> > Response Contact: David Black <david.black@emc.com> > Technical Contact: Bob Briscoe <ietf@bobbriscoe.net> > Purpose: For comment > > Body: To: 3GPP SA, 3GPP CT, 3GPP RAN, 3GPP SA4, 3GPP SA2, 3GPP RAN2 > From: IETF TSVWG > > In 2001, the IETF introduced explicit congestion notification (ECN) to the > Internet Protocol as a proposed standard [RFC3168]. The purpose of ECN was > to notify congestion without having to drop packets. The IETF originally > specified ECN for cases where buffers were IP-aware. However, ECN is now > being used in a number of environments including codec selection and rate > adaptation, where 3GPP protocols such as PDCP encapsulate IP. As active > queue management (AQM) and ECN become widely deployed in 3GPP networks and > interconnected IP networks, it could be incompatible with the standardized > use of ECN across the end-to-end IP transport [RFC7567]. > > The IETF is now considering new uses of ECN for low latency [draft-welzl- > ecn-benefits] that would be applicable to 5G mobile flows. However, the > IETF has realized that it has given little if any guidance on how to add > explicit congestion notification to lower layer protocols or interfaces > between lower layers and ECN in IP. > > This liaison statement is to inform 3GPP, in particular those groups > including those involved in 3GPP Release-10 work on the work item ECSRA_LA > (TR23.860) - SA4, CT4, SA2 and RAN2. Please distribute to all groups that > have used or plan to use IETF ECN /AQM RFCs in 3GPP specifications. > > The IETF has started work on guidelines for adding ECN to protocols that > may encapsulate IP and interfacing these protocols with ECN in IP. Then IP > may act in its role as an interoperability protocol over multiple > forwarding protocols. This activity is led by the IETF's transport > services working group (tsvwg). > > Actions: > The IETF tsvwg kindly asks 3GPP: > 1) to tell the IETF tsvwg which 3GPP working groups could be affected by > this work. > 2) To inform the IETF tsvwg of any specific 3GPP specifications affected > by this work. > 3) to forward this liaison statement to these affected working groups, and > to invite them to review the latest draft of the guidelines, available > here: > < http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-encap- > guidelines> > > Review comments are particularly welcome on: > - comprehensibility for the 3GPP community > - usefulness and applicability > - technical feasibility > > Review comments may be posted directly to the IETF tsvwg mailing list > <mailto: tsvwg@ietf.org>. Postings from non-subscribers may be delayed by > moderation. Alternatively, subscription is open to all at: < > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tsvwg>. > > The following IETF specifications or drafts are particularly relevant to > this activity (the relevance of each of them is explained in the first > item below): > * draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-encap-guidelines > * RFC3168 updated by RFC4301, RFC6040 (ECN in respectively: IP/TCP, IPsec > & IP-in-IP tunnels) > * RFC6679 (ECN in RTP) > * RFC5129 updated by RFC5462 (ECN in MPLS) > * RFC4774 (Specifying alternative semantics for the ECN field) > * RFC7567 (Recommendations Regarding Active Queue Management > * draft-welzl-ecn-benefits (Benefits to Applications of Using ECN) > > Yours, > --David L. Black (TSVWG co-chair) > Attachments: > > No document has been attached
- [aqm] FW: [tsvwg] New Liaison Statement, "Explici… Scheffenegger, Richard
- Re: [aqm] [tsvwg] New Liaison Statement, "Explici… Dave Taht
- Re: [aqm] [tsvwg] New Liaison Statement, "Explici… Black, David
- Re: [aqm] [tsvwg] New Liaison Statement, "Explici… Michael Welzl