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Re: [aqm] adoption call: draft-welzl-ecn-benefits

David Collier-Brown <davec-b@rogers.com> Mon, 11 August 2014 18:31 UTC

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+1, and even if some of the branches  of the discussion are "twigs", we
should indicate they're present and we're aware of them.



On 08/11/2014 02:19 PM, Dave Taht wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Wesley Eddy <wes@mti-systems.com> wrote:
>> This draft has been discussed a bit here and in TSVWG:
>>
>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-welzl-ecn-benefits-01
>>
>> As I understand, the IAB has also discussed it a bit, and would
>> be happy if this was something that an IETF working group
>> published.  I believe the TSVWG chairs also discussed this and
>> would be fine if the AQM working group adopted it.
>>
>> That said, there have only been a small number of mail list
>> comments here about it, and we (unfortunately) didn't devote
>> much of any meeting time to it in Toronto.
>>
>> So, *please* let us know your thoughts on this in the next few
>> weeks.  I believe we would try to complete it relatively quickly
>> (e.g. 6 months) as an Informational RFC, assuming there is
>> consensus and AD approval to add the milestone.
>>
>> I personally would like to see some stronger support for it from
>> this working group in order to feel good about adopting it, though
>> I think it is correct and may be "motherhood and apple pie" to
>> many of us.
> I don't share the relentless optimism of this document, and would
> like it - or a competing document - to go into the potential negatives.
>
> examples of this include the TOS washing problem bob alluded to
> in one of the tsvwg meetings (the monday one), the impact on
> competing flows, the problem of unresponsive agents or other
> misuse,  the deprecation (?) of the nonce mechanism, and how to
> properly switch between marking and dropping in an aqm.
>
> There are also the possibilities in new uses for ecn (for example, in
> the original rmcat nada proposal), in usages on local links in routing
> protocols, and in new protocols such as quic, etc.
>
>> --
>> Wes Eddy
>> MTI Systems
>>
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