Re: [arch-d] APN (Application-aware Networking) Mailing List

[Spencer Dawkins at IETF <[e-mail]>]

Adding the PANRG chairs, in case I get something wrong about PANRG ...

On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 7:37 PM Joe Touch <[e-mail]> wrote:

> This WG appears to be revisiting the issues of the expired trigtran wg. It
> might be useful to understand why that did not succeed and whether you are
> asking the same question twice and expecting a different answer.
>

Joe. thank you for nudging me on this thread.

PANRG (https://datatracker.ietf.org/rg/panrg/about/) has a draft about the
history of Path-Aware Networking (
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-panrg-what-not-to-do/), and why
most path-aware networking technologies haven't been deployed, although it
seems they should have been deployed (especially to the people who proposed
them).

TRIGTRAN specifically is covered in
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-panrg-what-not-to-do-12#section-5.5,
but TRIGTRAN was one of eight technologies considered, and we found enough
commonality to justify summarizing what we learned in 12 lessons (
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-panrg-what-not-to-do-12#section-2),
and then considering whether what we've learned is still relevant (
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-panrg-what-not-to-do-12#section-3).
Some are, some aren't.

This document doesn't have any standing in the IETF, other than providing
information, but I hope it's helpful for you (full disclosure, I'm the
editor).

Best,

Spencer


> Joe
>
> > On Aug 12, 2020, at 9:25 PM, Lizhenbin <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > The APN mailing list has been created. If you have interest in the work,
> please subscribe.
> >
> > List address: [e-mail]
> > Archive: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/apn
> > To subscribe: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/apn
> >
> > Purpose:
> > This email list is the discussion list for the Application-aware
> Networking (APN). Application-aware Networking is a mechanism whereby
> traffic flows can be steered and routed within the network to ensure that
> the specific service levels needed by applications can be delivered.
> >
> > This list belongs to IETF area: RTG
> >
> >
> > Look forward to going on to have more discussion in the mailing list.
> >
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Zhenbin (Robin)
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > 发件人: Architecture-discuss [[e-mail]] 代表
> Lizhenbin [[e-mail]]
> > 发送时间: 2020年7月29日 0:17
> > 收件人: [e-mail]; [e-mail]
> > 抄送: [e-mail]
> > 主题: [arch-d] APN (Application-aware Networking) Side Meeting
> >
> > Hi All,
> > We will have the APN side meeting at 12:30 - 14:00 UTC on July 30
> (Thursday). The agenda and the WebEx information is provided in the
> following link.
> > https://github.com/APN-Community/IETF108-Side-Meeting-APN
> >
> > There has been several similar work like APN such as SPUD and PLUS.
> Recently Network Token work was also proposed. The side meeting is to try
> to clarify the scope of APN comparing with other work. The possible
> usecases are also proposed for the APN work. Another goal of the side
> meeting is to clarify the security and privacy issues which are always
> proposed against such application-ware networking work. In RTGWG session
> held yesterday, the presentation of APN work discussed the possible
> scenarios related with the security and privacy issues. The following
> slides is for your reference:
> >
> https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/108/slides/slides-108-rtgwg-8-rtgwg-apn6-01
> >
> > Since it is a complex cross-area work and there is much background
> information, wish you could join the side meeting if you have interest in
> the work and your comments and suggestions are appreciated.
> >
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Daniel & Zhenbin (Robin)
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