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Re: [arch-d] ipv4 and ipv6 Coexistence.

Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com> Wed, 26 February 2020 09:45 UTC

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Subject: Re: [arch-d] ipv4 and ipv6 Coexistence.
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> On 24 Feb 2020, at 22:27, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:
> 
> I am primarily concerned that we did manage to recognize we needed
> disruptive innovartion in the 90th, when we came up with IPv6, but
> now the predominant religion seems to be being stuck in small
> incremental enhancements of that 25 year old architecture, especially
> because its bible (RFC8200) did only think of the IPv6 Internet use-case
> requirements, but not those of private/controlled networks.

I agree.

It is more that just the issue of private/controlled networks, the Internet itself is changing and the end to end model as we espouse is breaking is becoming a minority activity.

Anyone that has not done so already should read

target: https://hknog.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/01_GeoffHuston_TheDeath_of_Transit_and_Beyond.pdf
title: The Death of Transit and Beyond
author:
      name: Geoff Huston

It took us forever to recognise the reality of NATs, and I fear that we are failing to recognise the opportunities,  weaknesses and threats that the edge server and app centric model present.

- Stewart

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