[arch-d] A Course on Network Engineering by the Internet Society
Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com> Thu, 02 April 2020 02:04 UTC
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From: Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2020 09:04:50 +0700
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Subject: [arch-d] A Course on Network Engineering by the Internet Society
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Dear Eric, Toerless, Mirja & Architecture-discuss, Concerning with this architecture-discuss(@ietf/iab.org) mailing list: I remember that I ever red this article of the IETF Journal: "Reflections on Architecture" by Pekka Nikander 2005 By opening files at www.ietfjournal.org I finded this out: Among others this is one worked on by the IETF publication on "architecture" which mentioned also about "architecture-discuss" in the time of its beginning --I then made it part of the entry on "Consolidation of the Internet..." at the Internet Society's Open Forum Library: "I happen to have an architect’s mind. Looking at the network of today, I strongly feel the pain of the current architecture’s cracking and squeaking. Consequently, I believe that we – the wider IETF community responsible for Internet technology – need to re-think the architecture. We need to find a way to re-create the core of the Internet in a way that leads to a new era of innovation and intellectual prosperity. The highlight of my IETF64 meeting in Vancouver was that I started to see signs of interest and activity in the broader community to pursue such a goal. ... The IAB has recently created a new mailing list, architecture-discuss [15], for wider discussion of architectural issues, which I hope will develop into a valuable forum over time. I hope to see you there". https://www.ietfjournal.org/reflections-on-architecture Regard, Guntur Wiseno Putra Pada Rabu, 01 April 2020, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> menulis: > n Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 6:56 PM Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Dear Toerless, Jay, Mirja, Lars, Eric & >> architecture-discuss, >> >> Thank you, I am reading yours >> >> So, should we ingnore irrelevant things...? >> > > Yes, we should ignore irrelevant material but you should also stop posting > irrelevant material to this list. > > -Ekr > > >> >> >> >> >> Regard, >> Guntur Wiseno Putra >> >> Pada Rabu, 01 April 2020, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> menulis: >> >>> Thanks. I got a message that it was awaiting moderator >>> approval, and for usually non-moderated lists that typically means >>> it won't get processed. Sorry if i double posted because of that >>> problem. >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 08:27:03AM +1300, Jay Daley wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > > On 1/04/2020, at 8:21 AM, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote: >>> > > >>> > > architecture-discuss mailing list seems to be configured as to not >>> allow >>> > > it to be Bcc'ed, so not easy to move a discussion. Appended her what >>> > > i sent. >>> > >>> > Your bcc worked. >>> > >>> > Jay >>> > >>> > > >>> > > Cheers >>> > > Toerless >>> > > >>> > >> From tte@cs.fau.de Tue Mar 31 21:08:45 2020 >>> > > Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 21:08:45 +0200 >>> > > From: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs..fau.de <tte@cs.fau.de>> >>> > > To: opsawg@ietf.org >>> > > Cc: Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com> >>> > > Bcc: architecture-discuss@ietf.org >>> > > In-Reply-To: <CAKi_AEuTOBDsUqqN-0dOGiwXriSy >>> f9zYrDrabx0e-ngWDPoXRA@mail.gmail.com> >>> > > >>> > > [Bcc: architecture-discuss] >>> > > [Thanks, Guntur for forwarding] >>> > > >>> > > Guntur got some negative responses on architecture-discuss for >>> posting >>> > > the info below, i hope questions about this to opsawg will find a >>> > > friendlier reception: >>> > > >>> > > - I thought it was great to see that ISOC engages in supporting >>> > > operations, i was not aware of this. >>> > > >>> > > - where would i have found an original announcement about something >>> like >>> > > this ? isoc mailing list(s) i can subscribe to without personally >>> > > being a member to ISOC personally ? >>> > > >>> > > - I was wondering if there are actually any i* mailing lists for >>> > > operators to discuss ops, e.g.: whoever would take this course >>> before >>> > > or after (certainly beyond scope of opsawg). >>> > > >>> > > I asked the email given on the isoc page, but got no response >>> > > (learning@isoc.org). >>> > > >>> > > Cheers >>> > > Toerless >>> > > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ >>> > >> Architecture-discuss mailing list >>> > >> Architecture-discuss@ietf.org >>> > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/architecture-discuss >>> > > >>> > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:05:24PM +0700, Guntur Wiseno Putra wrote: >>> > >> Dear architecture-discuss, >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> An update on "Network Engineering" released by the Internet Society >>> --this >>> > >> information I formerly got from Kevin Chege, Internet Society.. >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> Online Course: Introduction to Network OperationsUNIX/Linux, >>> Networking & >>> > >> Domain Name System (DNS)The deadline for applications is 2 April >>> 2020. >>> > >> >>> > >> https://www.internetsociety.org/learning/network-operations/ >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> Regard, >>> > >> Guntur Wiseno Putra >>> > > >>> > > _______________________________________________ >>> > > Architecture-discuss mailing list >>> > > Architecture-discuss@ietf.org >>> > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/architecture-discuss >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Jay Daley >>> > jay@daley.org.nz >>> > +64 21 678840 >>> > >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Architecture-discuss mailing list >>> Architecture-discuss@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/architecture-discuss >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Architecture-discuss mailing list >> Architecture-discuss@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/architecture-discuss >> >
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- Re: [arch-d] A Course on Network Engineering by t… Lars Eggert
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- [arch-d] opsawq: Q: ops learning ? (was: Re: A Co… Toerless Eckert
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- Re: [arch-d] A Course on Network Engineering by t… Jay Daley
- Re: [arch-d] A Course on Network Engineering by t… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [arch-d] A Course on Network Engineering by t… Guntur Wiseno Putra
- Re: [arch-d] A Course on Network Engineering by t… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [arch-d] A Course on Network Engineering by t… Guntur Wiseno Putra
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- Re: [arch-d] A Course on Network Engineering by t… Mark Nottingham