Re: [arch-d] IAB Open meeting at IETF 117

Lixia Zhang <lixia@cs.ucla.edu> Tue, 25 July 2023 03:57 UTC

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From: Lixia Zhang <lixia@cs.ucla.edu>
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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2023 20:57:31 -0700
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Subject: Re: [arch-d] IAB Open meeting at IETF 117
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How about me disagreeing with both Vittorio and Toerless;-)

As DINRG chairs, we did not, but should have, list IAB Open as "Conflicts to Avoid", given (de)centralization is high on the IAB interest list. This could have helped make the deconflicting a little less impossible.

Lixia

> On Jul 24, 2023, at 4:04 PM, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:
> 
> Adding dinrg mailing list
> 
> I think you are trying to achieve a level of deconflicting thats long since been impossible
> in IETF. When we are lucky we avoid that people who actively need to participate in discussions
> need to run between rooms within one time slot.
> 
> A great IEETF/IRTF presentation is still a great presentation as a video on youtube.
> 
> There is also always various option to engage outside the sessions, such as in breaks. And if
> that time fails to work, then the big difference betgween IRTF any e.g.: research conferences
> is that anything being presented during an IETF/IRTF meeting should also be possible to be
> discussed easily afterwards with the topic originators on the WG/RG mailing list.
> 
> Cheers
>    Toerless
> 
> On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 12:57:08AM +0200, Vittorio Bertola wrote:
>> 
>>> Il 21/07/2023 13:29 PDT Suresh Krishnan <suresh.krishnan@gmail.com> ha scritto:
>>> 
>>> * We have invited a guest speaker, Nick Merrill, to provide a talk on Internet Fragmentation and Centralization.
>> 
>> I guess this is nobody's fault, but it is an egregious case of bad scheduling that this talk will overlap almost exactly with Cory Doctorow's talk "Let The Platforms Burn: Bringing Back the Good Fire of the Old Internet" at DINRG, meeting in the adjacent room at the same time. Perhaps, for the future, some better form of coordination between the IAB and the IRTF could be worked out, at least when the IAB is going to address a topic which is also the subject of an IRTF RG.
>> 
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