[Architecture-discuss] 8+8 history (Re: Sources of architectural change)

Since this is ancient history for most of us, some rehashing may be in 
order, at least about what the history was....

--On tirsdag, november 01, 2005 22:55:00 -0800 Tony Li <tony.li@tony.li> 
wrote:

> My recollection was that the original proposal was met with a
> counter-draft that was unpublished, somewhat questionable, and
> was used to justify terminating all discussion of the alternatives.

One of my regrets is that at the time this discussion occured, I thought 
that I was too inexperienced in the area to contribute, so I did not do 
anything to contribute....

The GSE proposal was first written up in draft-odell-8+8, published October 
1996 (and the only draft ever published with a plus sign in the filename, I 
believe) and later in draft-ietf-ipngwg-gseaddr, dated February 1997.
The first isn't even available from bgp.potaroo.net; the second is.

The IPNG WG seemed to achieve "rough consensus" that GSE was not a viable 
approach; the arguments against GSE were summarized in the draft 
draft-ietf-ipngwg-esd-analysis.

At some later time, this draft was proposed for publication.

This was in the Bad Days Before Tracker, so I'm operating strictly from 
memory, both with dates and conclusions... my memory says that the IESG 
questioned the justification for some of the claims in the draft regarding 
the percieved security weaknesses of GSE and sent it back to the WG; it 
never returned.

Version -05 of that draft has a date of October 1999; version -00 had a 
date of March 1997, and was written as *accepting* ESD, so while the end 
result was probably a termination of discussion, the process did take 2.5 
years to get that far.

WRT what it would take to bring it back: At the current stage of IPv6, it 
seems to me that it would take someone working through how to allow one 
subnet in a classical IPv6 network to use 8+8 while the rest of the world 
didn't..... apparently nobody's seriously suggested that in Multi6.... I 
don't know if it's workable.....

                    Harald

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