Re: [arcmedia] FW: [apps-discuss] Proposed charter for arcmedia

I think the whole point of the archive/ type is the general
archive/file fall-back, as discussed in the BOF - e.g. the OS/browser
can do "I don't know how to deal with this
archive/grahams-latest-thing, I'll just throw it at
Winzip/7Zip/Archive Manager and hope for the best" - it's a similar
default as Notepad for text/* and Gimp for image/*.

Packaging-on-the-web *is* relevant, because it is deliberately an
archive, while say application/vnd.msoffice.cant.remember.exactly.docx
is NOT meant to be an archive for the general user. It is not helpful
for grandma to get her word-document expanded as a file structure. A
developer who wants to extract images might like that - but she would
need to know more than it being an archive.

I'm not sure what is the timeline for
http://w3ctag.github.io/packaging-on-the-web/ - it doesn't say.  I
have anyway reminded them about us at
https://github.com/w3ctag/packaging-on-the-web/issues/13 :)

On 1 January 2015 at 04:17, Graham Klyne <gk@ninebynine.org> wrote:
> On 01/01/2015 00:02, Larry Masinter wrote:
>>
>> Happy new year...
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Larry Masinter
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 4:01 PM
>> To: 'Graham Klyne'; Murray S. Kucherawy; Stian Soiland-Reyes
>> Cc: arcmedia@ietf.org; IETF Apps Discuss
>> Subject: RE: [apps-discuss] Proposed charter for arcmedia
>>
>> I think the arcmedia WG charter should take into the W3C TAG work on
>> packaging/archives
>>
>> http://w3ctag.github.io/packaging-on-the-web/
>
>
> Agreed.  But noting that there could be some differences in emphasis, as
> that format is not intended to be an *archive* format.   Which I guess begs
> a question here: should the charter focus to be on *archive* or more broadly
> on multiple-file packaging formats?  (I'm not sure what difference that
> would make in practice, but I have a feeling some archival specialists might
> have something to add about this.)  I lean to the latter, but "archive
> format" is a more concise description.
>
> In particular, if suggesting a common fragment identifier format, I think
> the specification in the W3C document could be useful to consider for
> adoption.
>
> #g
> --
>
>>
>> (W3c-tag bcc)
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: apps-discuss [mailto:apps-discuss-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Graham Klyne
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 8:00 AM
>>> To: Murray S. Kucherawy; Stian Soiland-Reyes
>>> Cc: arcmedia@ietf.org; IETF Apps Discuss
>>> Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] Proposed charter for arcmedia
>>>
>>> Re:
>>> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/arcmedia/current/msg00001.html
>>>
>>> I think the suggested charter looks pretty good.  The work seems
>>> well-scoped to me.
>>>
>>> I'd expect to review at least the proposed base document, and maybe
>>> some of the initial registrations.
>>>
>>> #g
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> On 30/12/2014 18:13, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 9:58 PM, Stian Soiland-Reyes <
>>>> soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi - what's the status of the chartering of the arcmedia WG? I
>>>>> don't see that it has been added to http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/
>>>>> and there is no further emails on the arcmedia mailing list.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A mailing list was created shortly after the November meeting, and
>>>> the proposed charter was posted there and here.  There has been no
>>>> response of any kind.
>>>>
>>>> -MSK
>>>>
>>>>
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