Re: [art] Artart last call review of draft-ietf-quic-v2-05

Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com> Mon, 10 October 2022 19:32 UTC

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From: Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2022 12:30:50 -0700
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Subject: Re: [art] Artart last call review of draft-ietf-quic-v2-05
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Thanks!

On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 12:30 PM James <james.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

> Martin,
>
> Thanks for clarifying, and no I'm not going to insist.
>
> ~ J
>
> > On 10 Oct 2022, at 20:58, Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > James,
> >
> > Thanks for the review!
> >
> > I honestly don't think it's a big deal either way -- I'll add either
> normative word if you insist, but I don't think a requirement is necessary
> here and it flows a bit better this way in my opinion. "ignore" is
> obviously a pretty loose word to use -- it would certainly be OK for a
> client to log it or something.
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 7:43 AM James Gruessing via Datatracker <
> noreply@ietf.org> wrote:
> > Reviewer: James Gruessing
> > Review result: Ready
> >
> > This is my review of draft-ietf-quic-v2-05 as part of ART Last Call
> review.
> >
> > Overall this is a well written document that is clear in its writing,
> and I
> > have only one minor point of clarification.
> >
> > Section 4.1 - "The client ignores Retry packets using other versions." -
> is
> > this supposed to be a normative phrase, i.e. "The client SHOULD/MUST
> ignore
> > Retry packets"? This sentence feels out of place in a paragraph with
> normative
> > text defining other requirements. Or is this a behaviour defined in VN
> that I
> > have missed?
> >
> >
>
>