Re: [art] BCP190

Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> Tue, 23 July 2019 18:16 UTC

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From: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
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Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 14:16:23 -0400
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Regarding URL Templates -- FWIW, there are many libraries and a well-defined test suite available; see:
  https://github.com/uri-templates/uritemplate-spec/wiki/Implementations
  https://github.com/uri-templates/uritemplate-testf

Cheers,


> On 23 Jul 2019, at 2:06 pm, Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com> wrote:
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> On 7/23/19 12:47, Devon O'Brien wrote:
>> Am I to take your position as an endorsement of altering CT to use /.well-known/ or is it simply a criticism of our (flawed) analysis of alternatives?
> 
> I think moving under .well-known is a valid solution to the situation at hand. It's far from my preferred one: the use of URLs in CT is a poster child for why URI templates (RFC 6570) were developed, and I think that solution fits this problem perfectly. However, I also recognize that such a change at this point in the process is probably more disruptive than simply moving under the namespace that has been carved out for uses that want to specify names, paths, and parameters in the way that CT does.
> 
> I also think it would be valid to get the rest of the community on-board with principled changes to the provisions of BCP 190, if that's achievable. That seems to be the path you've chosen. The goal here remains finding a cross-IETF consensus about whether what TRANS is currently proposing to do is reasonable, given that previous discussions concluded that it is not.
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