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Re: [Asdf] John Scudder's Block on charter-ietf-asdf-01-00: (with BLOCK)

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Thu, 04 April 2024 16:13 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Asdf] John Scudder's Block on charter-ietf-asdf-01-00: (with BLOCK)
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John Scudder via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org> wrote:
    > Changing “by working with” to “in consultation with” or even just
    > removing “by” would address my concern.

If I remove "by", I get:

   The ASDF WG will develop these extensions working with experts from OneDM
   and its contributing organizations to extend SDF to cover aspects such as
   digital twin, mapping to other IoT SDOs, and gateway interactions
   translating between IP and other transports.

And it doesn't read right.
The grammar checker seems okay with it, but it seems wrong.
So I'll go with "in consultation with":

   The ASDF WG will develop these extensions in consultation with experts
   from OneDM and its contributing organizations to extend SDF to cover
   aspects such as digital twin, mapping to other IoT SDOs, and gateway
   interactions translating between IP and other transports.

I think that only Francesca can update the master copy, but the copy at:
https://github.com/ietf-wg-asdf/asdf-working-group-notes/blob/charter-revision-2023/charter-proposals/charter.md

has been updated.




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