Re: [Asdf] Corsano Health supports Non-IP device control

"Bart Brinckman (bbrinckm)" <bbrinckm@cisco.com> Mon, 18 March 2024 08:22 UTC

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From: "Bart Brinckman (bbrinckm)" <bbrinckm@cisco.com>
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Thread-Topic: [Asdf] Corsano Health supports Non-IP device control
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Carsten, love the analogy, you nailed it!

Note that these non-ip ecosystems are going into networks now, we are still a few years away from IP everywhere when it comes to low-power IoT. With these ecosystems having a lifetime of 10+ years, we are in for another decade or 2 of supporting htem, so we want a standard way of doing it.

Thanks!
Bart

From: Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org>
Date: Saturday, 16 March 2024 at 00:55
To: Nalini J Elkins <nalini_elkins@insidethestack.com>
Cc: Eliot Lear <lear@lear.ch>, Bart Brinckman (bbrinckm) <bbrinckm@cisco.com>, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>, Ali Marjovi <marjovi@gmail.com>, asdf@ietf.org <asdf@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Asdf] Corsano Health supports Non-IP device control
On 15. Mar 2024, at 20:06, Nalini J Elkins <nalini_elkins@insidethestack.com> wrote:
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> If you will be in Brisbane and this is of interest, let’s arrange to talk.

I will be.
ASDF has decided to push the high-bandwidth discussion about ASDF rechartering to an interim.
But we sure can (and should!) discuss this week.

When Internet Mail was set up to take over the world, we needed a decade or so of gateway-intensive interworking.  People noticed after a while that native(*) SMTP works better, so everybody converged, but it took some time.

When Internet Telephony was set up to take over the world, gateways to POTS were a crucial ingredient.  It took as two decades to converge (convert!), making TDM-based POTS obsolete, so the gateways had to be good.

We are somewhere in between those examples in the IoT/OT spaces, but we do have to have these gateways.  Making them work well can require knowledge about the devices that SDF is set up to provide.  So I fully support the rechartering of ASDF to include support for NIPC.

Grüße, Carsten

(*) (sorry for not knowing a better word here, can someone please invent one?)