[Asrg] Content filter abuse for censorship
Hadmut Danisch <hadmut@danisch.de> Wed, 07 May 2003 08:31 UTC
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Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 10:29:54 +0200
As I stated earlier and in my RMX draft, content filters are prone to be abused for censorship. A few minutes ago I've sent a message to the list and a few participants about rhetoric style. I guess everybody will agree that this message was new (freshly created) and not a kind of bulk mail. I received an error message from my delivering MTA: ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- vjs@calcite.rhyolite.com (reason: 550 5.7.1 REJECT go away: Sent to DCC) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to calcite.rhyolite.com.: >>> DATA <<< 550 5.7.1 REJECT go away: Sent to DCC 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable If you read the web page of DCC, then this is not based on certain words contained in the message, but on checksums. So the error message above can't be caused by the text of the message. This particular message was reported to the DCC as being Spam. So every customer of DCC will not receive that message anymore. The delivery of the message over the list is slightly delayed. So when list members do receive that message, the DCC will already report it as Spam and block it. From my point of view this is private censorship and that's why I don't like those systems. Hadmut _______________________________________________ Asrg mailing list Asrg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/asrg
- [Asrg] Content filter abuse for censorship Hadmut Danisch
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- Re: [Asrg] Content filter abuse for censorship Vernon Schryver
- Re: [Asrg] Content filter abuse for censorship Alan DeKok
- Re: [Asrg] Content filter abuse for censorship J C Lawrence
- Re: [Asrg] Content filter abuse for censorship J C Lawrence
- Re: [Asrg] Content filter abuse for censorship Alan DeKok
- Re: [Asrg] Content filter abuse for censorship Alan DeKok
- Re: [Asrg] Content filter abuse for censorship J C Lawrence
- RE: [Asrg] Content filter abuse for censorship Hallam-Baker, Phillip