Re: [Asrg] Content filter abuse for censorship

J C Lawrence <claw@kanga.nu> Wed, 07 May 2003 09:07 UTC

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To: Hadmut Danisch <hadmut@danisch.de>
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Subject: Re: [Asrg] Content filter abuse for censorship
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Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 02:06:17 -0700

On Wed, 7 May 2003 10:29:54 +0200 
Hadmut Danisch <hadmut@danisch.de> wrote:

> <<< 550 5.7.1 REJECT go away: Sent to DCC 

> If you read the web page of DCC, then this is not based on certain
> words contained in the message, but on checksums. 

In practice Vernon is more generous with his definitions regarding what
gets matched and what gets reported than the DCC pages report.  This is
his perogative as a private mail system operator.

> This particular message was reported to the DCC as being Spam. So
> every customer of DCC will not receive that message anymore. 

There is not requirement for sites running DCC to use its as absolute
spam markers.  Most that I've seen use DCC as a hinting mechanism, one
factor among several, not an absolute flag.

> From my point of view this is private censorship and that's why I
> don't like those systems.

I do not think that censorship means what you think it does.  Please
check a good dictionary.

What are you saying here?

  That someone should not elect what mail they are willing to receive or
  not?

  That someone should not state the criteria on which they decide what
  mail to receive or not?

  That someone should not state the actual decisions they made regarding
  mail they receive?

  That someone should not listen to the criteria or decisions another
  makes regarding their mail, and then factor that into their own mail
  policies in whatever manner they wish?

There are slippery free speech issues in here.

-- 
J C Lawrence                
---------(*)                Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. 
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