[Asrg] MailBlocks and ASRG
Yakov Shafranovich <research@solidmatrix.com> Fri, 13 June 2003 03:48 UTC
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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 14:22:45 -0400
I have been in touch with someone at MailBlocks, Inc. regarding their patents. First of all, MailBlocks's has submitted the following IPR template, which I added to the IPR document (http://www.solidmatrix.com/research/asrg/asrg-ipr.html) ------ The IP Holder states that its position with respect to licensing any IP claims disclosed above that would be necessary to implement the technology required by an IETF Proposed Standard, Draft Standard, or Standard (or other IETF document) is as follows (select one option only): (X) Licensing Declaration to be Provided Later (implies a willingness to license in some form to all implementers; otherwise, "Unwilling to License to All Implementers" must be selected) ------ They had further informed me that they are willing to review any anti-spam proposal regarding their IPR claims and in general want to help the IETF/IRTF and the ASRG. They further informed me that as of now, they feel that their IP covers any C/R system that interacts between a computer and a human being. Something like the CRI protocol that Eric Dean is working on, where two computers are interacting with each other, they are not sure about, but will study it and issue an opinion. Obviously, unless the whole Internet suddenly deploys the CRI protocol, there will be interaction with humans, so this might be irrelevant. Yakov --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yakov Shafranovich / <research@solidmatrix.com> SolidMatrix Research, a division of SolidMatrix Technologies, Inc. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "One who watches the wind will never sow, and one who keeps his eyes on the clouds will never reap" (Ecclesiastes 11:4) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Asrg mailing list Asrg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/asrg
- [Asrg] MailBlocks and ASRG Yakov Shafranovich