[Asrg] Re: CLOSE ASRG NOW IT HAS FAILED
Vern Paxson <vern@icir.org> Mon, 16 June 2003 08:06 UTC
Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id EAA05036 for <asrg-archive@odin.ietf.org>; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 04:06:32 -0400 (EDT)
Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h5G863N13260 for asrg-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 04:06:03 -0400
Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h5G861m13257 for <asrg-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org>; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 04:06:01 -0400
Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id EAA05005; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 04:05:59 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Roxu-0000c0-00; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 04:03:46 -0400
Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=www1.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Roxt-0000bw-00; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 04:03:45 -0400
Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h5G6J1a05153; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 02:19:01 -0400
Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h5G6Idm05142 for <asrg@optimus.ietf.org>; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 02:18:39 -0400
Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA02873; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 02:18:36 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19RnHy-0007bU-00; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 02:16:22 -0400
Received: from jaguar.icir.org ([192.150.187.74]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19RnHy-0007bR-00; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 02:16:22 -0400
Received: from jaguar.icir.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jaguar.icir.org (8.12.8p1/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h5G6ISWT000662; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 23:18:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vern@jaguar.icir.org)
Message-Id: <200306160618.h5G6ISWT000662@jaguar.icir.org>
To: "Hallam-Baker, Phillip" <pbaker@verisign.com>
Cc: "'ietf@ietf.org'" <ietf@ietf.org>, 'Paul Judge' <paul.judge@ciphertrust.com>, 'Kee Hinckley' <nazgul@somewhere.com>, "'Asrg@ietf.org'" <Asrg@ietf.org>
In-reply-to: Your message of Sun, 15 Jun 2003 05:10:43 PDT.
From: Vern Paxson <vern@icir.org>
Subject: [Asrg] Re: CLOSE ASRG NOW IT HAS FAILED
Sender: asrg-admin@ietf.org
Errors-To: asrg-admin@ietf.org
X-BeenThere: asrg@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12
Precedence: bulk
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/asrg>, <mailto:asrg-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Id: Anti-Spam Research Group - IRTF <asrg.ietf.org>
List-Post: <mailto:asrg@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:asrg-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/asrg>, <mailto:asrg-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
List-Archive: <https://www1.ietf.org/pipermail/asrg/>
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 23:18:28 -0700
> I disagree with the requirement because I don't think there is > an enforceable requirement. I think that if there is a problem > and a court case results, that the way the IPR policy has been > enacted will allow any barely competent lawyer to get arround > it. As I previously stated, this is an *interim* policy because the IRTF does not have a formal policy at this point, and putting one together is going to take a fair amount of time. Even if it is unenforceable, there is a notion of maintaining ethical behavior; most of us comply with rules of professional conduct even if they are not legally enforceable. Vern _______________________________________________ Asrg mailing list Asrg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/asrg
- [Asrg] Re: CLOSE ASRG NOW IT HAS FAILED Vern Paxson
- [Asrg] Re: CLOSE ASRG NOW IT HAS FAILED Vernon Schryver