Re: [Asrg] 0.General - News Article - NYT Reports Porn Spam Hijacking Network

["C. Wegrzyn" <[e-mail]>]

Yakov,

 Wouldn't the proposal by Mike only work with someone sending to a 
single site? I am confused as to how my MAT can be throttled when I 
spurt emails to a number of different MTAs? Is this something an ISP has 
to implement?

Chuck Wegrzyn


Yakov Shafranovich wrote:

> At 06:07 PM 7/15/2003 -0400, mathew wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, July 15, 2003, at 08:47 AM, Alan DeKok wrote:
>>
>>> mathew <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>> ....
>>
>>>   Spam filtering on outbound messages is perfectly permissible in many
>>> cases, and legally required in many.  Do you really think that it's
>>> legally acceptable for businesses to allow their employees to send
>>> (whatever illegal content) to each other, or to people outside of the
>>> company?
>>
>>
>> So you're proposing that ISPs be required to run something like 
>> SpamAssassin on all *outgoing* e-mail, and bounce e-mail back at the 
>> user if it looks like spam?
>>
>> I see a problem with that--will users accept it, or will they take 
>> their money elsewhere? I know that when *I* send an e-mail, I expect 
>> it to be sent--if my ISP bounces it back because they don't like the 
>> content, it's time for me to find another ISP.
>
>
> Sometime back Mike Rubel proposed implementing a rate limit on 
> outgoing messages (see 
> http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/working-groups/asrg/current/msg04616.html). 
> If too many messages are sent within a set amount of time, they are 
> held in queue and a message is sent to the ISP subscriber warning him 
> about a possible infection. Same can apply to too many outgoing spam 
> messages (see 
> http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/working-groups/asrg/current/msg04629.html). 
> A sample warning would be as follows:
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     Dear customer,
>
>     We apologize for this intrusion.
>
>     Our systems indicate that your computer attempted to send a large
>     number of emails over the last ten minutes.  Because unusually
>     large volumes of outbound email sometimes indicate the presence of
>     a computer virus, we wanted to check with you before proceeding.
>     These and further emails will be placed in a temporary
>     quarantine while we await your instructions.  We respect your
>     privacy, and will not read or otherwise disclose the messages
>     without your permission.
>
>     Please call [phone] at your earliest convenience so that
>     we may process your request without further delay.  We appreciate
>     your business and look forward to serving you again in the future.
>
>                        --Your friendly email service providers
>     To change your notification settings, please go to:
>     https://www.exampleisp.com/my_account_settings/web_form.php
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
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