Re: [Asrg] 0.General - News Article - NYT Reports Porn Spam Hijacking Network

[Yakov Shafranovich <[e-mail]>]

At 06:07 PM 7/15/2003 -0400, mathew wrote:

>On Tuesday, July 15, 2003, at 08:47 AM, Alan DeKok wrote:
>>mathew <[e-mail]> wrote:
>....
>>   Spam filtering on outbound messages is perfectly permissible in many
>>cases, and legally required in many.  Do you really think that it's
>>legally acceptable for businesses to allow their employees to send
>>(whatever illegal content) to each other, or to people outside of the
>>company?
>
>So you're proposing that ISPs be required to run something like 
>SpamAssassin on all *outgoing* e-mail, and bounce e-mail back at the user 
>if it looks like spam?
>
>I see a problem with that--will users accept it, or will they take their 
>money elsewhere? I know that when *I* send an e-mail, I expect it to be 
>sent--if my ISP bounces it back because they don't like the content, it's 
>time for me to find another ISP.

Sometime back Mike Rubel proposed implementing a rate limit on outgoing 
messages (see 
http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/working-groups/asrg/current/msg04616.html). 
If too many messages are sent within a set amount of time, they are held in 
queue and a message is sent to the ISP subscriber warning him about a 
possible infection. Same can apply to too many outgoing spam messages (see 
http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/working-groups/asrg/current/msg04629.html). 
A sample warning would be as follows:


------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Dear customer,

     We apologize for this intrusion.

     Our systems indicate that your computer attempted to send a large
     number of emails over the last ten minutes.  Because unusually
     large volumes of outbound email sometimes indicate the presence of
     a computer virus, we wanted to check with you before proceeding.
     These and further emails will be placed in a temporary
     quarantine while we await your instructions.  We respect your
     privacy, and will not read or otherwise disclose the messages
     without your permission.

     Please call [phone] at your earliest convenience so that
     we may process your request without further delay.  We appreciate
     your business and look forward to serving you again in the future.

                        --Your friendly email service providers
     To change your notification settings, please go to:
     https://www.exampleisp.com/my_account_settings/web_form.php
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