Re: [Asrg] 4. Survey of Solutions - Consent Model
Yakov Shafranovich <research@solidmatrix.com> Mon, 14 July 2003 00:39 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Asrg] 4. Survey of Solutions - Consent Model
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Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 20:36:35 -0400
At 02:15 PM 7/9/2003 +0100, Andrew Akehurst wrote: > >> ........ > >> In the ultimate scenario where everyone uses some implementation of > >> this consent framework it would be fine to make no distinction. However > >> for the purposes of interoperability with non-compliant systems during > >> roll-out of the new consent framework > >> ........ > > > The "new" consent framework is not replacing the current structure of > > the Net. It is an ABSTRACT model that allows us to evaluate all anti-spam > > proposals. > >I understand, all that I meant was that implementations will have to consider >interoperability issues. I take it you feel that interoperability is not >relevant to the model itself, only to specific proposals? > >That would make some sense, but we are still proposing a change to current >behaviour in that we have new reasons why messages may not be delivered to >their intended recipient (i.e. lack of consent). Therefore some messages >which >would have been delivered under the existing system will not be delivered >under >implementations of the consent framework. > >Since you say the purpose of the framework is to evaluate anti-spam >proposals, >one of the criteria should be the likely impact on existing usage and >interaction between existing users and those who have migrated to >consent-based >software. Some of that detail will depend on implementation, but some >abstract >ideas are so fundamentally different from the current system that *any* >implementation of them would affect interoperability. > >Of course I know there are already many reasons why e-mail may not arrive >under >the current open system, such as an invalid recipient e-mail address or a >lack >of disk space at the receiver's incoming mail server. So maybe this issue is >less important (to the abstract model) than I first thought. > >Anyway, I'd be interested to hear your comments about the issue. There is a separate requirements document (https://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/working-groups/asrg/current/msg05084.html) outlining specific point-by-point requirements and a "Technical Considerations" document (http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-crocker-spam-techconsider-02.txt) which outlines more overall requirements. These are meanth to be used in conjunction with the model document. _______________________________________________ Asrg mailing list Asrg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/asrg
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