Re: [auth48] [C468] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9368 <draft-ietf-quic-version-negotiation-14> for your review

David Schinazi <dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com> Tue, 16 May 2023 00:33 UTC

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From: David Schinazi <dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 15 May 2023 17:32:59 -0700
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Subject: Re: [auth48] [C468] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9368 <draft-ietf-quic-version-negotiation-14> for your review
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Thanks Alanna. The suggestion of numerals sounds fine, I've added the
numbers 1) and 2) to our copy. We still have a few changes between our
copies: could you tweak the commas and which/that to match ours please?

https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=https://quicwg.github.io/version-negotiation/auth48/draft-ietf-quic-version-negotiation.txt&url1=https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.txt

Thanks,
David

On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 4:57 PM Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com> wrote:

> Hi David and Zahed*,
>
> *Zahed - As the AD, please review and approve of the updated text and key
> words added in Sections 2.5, 4, and 8 in the diff file below:
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-lastdiff.html
>
> David - Thank you for your reply. We have updated the files per the diff
> file you provided.
>
> Note that there is one exception that we did not update. In Section 2,
> “which” is used after “compatible” and “incompatible” so that the
> descriptions are parallel. Would you prefer to add numerals to the sentence
> for clarity as follows?
>
> Perhaps:
>  This document specifies two means of performing version negotiation:
>   1) “incompatible”, which requires a round trip and is applicable to all
>   versions and 2) “compatible”, which allows saving the round trip but
>   only applies when the versions are compatible (see Section 2.2).
>
>  The files have been posted here (please refresh):
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.txt
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.pdf
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.html
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.xml
>
>  The relevant diff files are posted here:
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-diff.html (comprehensive
> diff)
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-auth48diff.html (all AUTH48
> changes)
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-lastdiff.html (htmlwdiff
> diff between last version and this)
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-lastrfcdiff.html (rfcdiff
> between last version and this)
>
> Please see the AUTH48 status page for this document here:
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9368
>
> Thank you,
> RFC Editor/ap
>
> > On May 11, 2023, at 3:50 PM, David Schinazi <dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi Alanna,
> >
> > Eric and I spent some time reviewing the document and we'd like to make
> some minor changes. Here's a diff from your version to what we'd prefer:
> >
> https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=https://quicwg.github.io/version-negotiation/auth48/draft-ietf-quic-version-negotiation.txt&url1=https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.txt
> >
> > Would you be able to make those changes please?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > David
> >
> > On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 9:00 AM Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com> wrote:
> > Hi Eric,
> >
> > This is a reminder that we await your review and approval of this
> document prior moving it forward in the publication process.
> >
> > The files are here:
> > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.txt
> > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.pdf
> > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.html
> > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.xml
> >
> > The relevant diff files are posted here:
> > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-diff.html (comprehensive
> diff)
> > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-auth48diff.html (all AUTH48
> changes)
> > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-lastdiff.html (htmlwdiff
> diff between last version and this)
> > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-lastrfcdiff.html (rfcdiff
> between last version and this)
> >
> > This page shows the AUTH48 status of your document:
> > https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9368
> >
> > Best regards,
> > RFC Editor/ap
> >
> > > On May 4, 2023, at 8:40 AM, Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Eric,
> > >
> > > Just a reminder that we await your review and approval prior to moving
> this document forward in the publication process.
> > >
> > > The files are here:
> > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.txt
> > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.pdf
> > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.html
> > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.xml
> > >
> > > The relevant diff files are posted here:
> > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-diff.html (comprehensive
> diff)
> > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-auth48diff.html (all
> AUTH48 changes)
> > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-lastdiff.html (htmlwdiff
> diff between last version and this)
> > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-lastrfcdiff.html (rfcdiff
> between last version and this)
> > >
> > > This page shows the AUTH48 status of your document:
> > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9368
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > RFC Editor/ap
> > >
> > >> On Apr 26, 2023, at 4:31 PM, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Yee. I have now finished subcerts and am moving onto this. I should
> have completed an initial review this week.
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Apr 14, 2023 at 11:05 AM Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com>
> wrote:
> > >> Hi Eric,
> > >>
> > >> Just a reminder that we await word from you regarding this document's
> readiness for publication as an RFC.
> > >>
> > >> The files are here:
> > >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.txt
> > >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.pdf
> > >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.html
> > >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.xml
> > >>
> > >> The relevant diff files are posted here:
> > >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-diff.html (comprehensive
> diff)
> > >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-auth48diff.html (all
> AUTH48 changes)
> > >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-lastdiff.html (htmlwdiff
> diff between last version and this)
> > >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-lastrfcdiff.html (rfcdiff
> between last version and this)
> > >>
> > >> This page shows the AUTH48 status of your document:
> > >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9368
> > >>
> > >> Best regards,
> > >> RFC Editor/ap
> > >>
> > >>> On Apr 7, 2023, at 12:39 PM, Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi Eric,
> > >>>
> > >>> This is friendly reminder that we await your review and approval of
> the updated files.
> > >>>
> > >>> The files have been posted here (please refresh):
> > >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.txt
> > >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.pdf
> > >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.html
> > >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.xml
> > >>>
> > >>> The relevant diff files are posted here:
> > >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-diff.html (comprehensive
> diff)
> > >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-auth48diff.html (all
> AUTH48 changes)
> > >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-lastdiff.html (htmlwdiff
> diff between last version and this)
> > >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-lastrfcdiff.html
> (rfcdiff between last version and this)
> > >>>
> > >>> This page shows the AUTH48 status of your document:
> > >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9368
> > >>>
> > >>> Thank you,
> > >>> RFC Editor/ap
> > >>>
> > >>>> On Mar 21, 2023, at 9:58 AM, Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com>
> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Hi Eric,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thank you for letting us know. We’ve noted this delay on the AUTH48
> status page:
> > >>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9368
> > >>>>
> > >>>> We’ll check in the week after IETF 116 if we don’t hear back from
> you first.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Best regards,
> > >>>> RFC Editor/ap
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> On Mar 21, 2023, at 9:15 AM, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks. At this point I am preparing for IETF and will likely not
> get to this till after Yokohama.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 9:14 AM Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com>
> wrote:
> > >>>>> Hi Eric,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> This is another friendly reminder that we await your review and
> approval of the updated files before continuing with the publication
> process.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> The files have been posted here (please refresh):
> > >>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.txt
> > >>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.pdf
> > >>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.html
> > >>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.xml
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> The relevant diff files are posted here:
> > >>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-diff.html
> (comprehensive diff)
> > >>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-auth48diff.html (all
> AUTH48 changes)
> > >>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-lastdiff.html
> (htmlwdiff diff between last version and this)
> > >>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-lastrfcdiff.html
> (rfcdiff between last version and this)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> This page shows the AUTH48 status of your document:
> > >>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9368
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thank you,
> > >>>>> RFC Editor/ap
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Mar 14, 2023, at 11:11 AM, Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com>
> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Hi Eric,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> This is a friendly reminder that we await your review and
> approval of the updated files before continuing with the publication
> process.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> The files have been posted here (please refresh):
> > >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.txt
> > >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.pdf
> > >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.html
> > >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.xml
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> The relevant diff files are posted here:
> > >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-diff.html
> (comprehensive diff)
> > >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-auth48diff.html (all
> AUTH48 changes)
> > >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-lastdiff.html
> (htmlwdiff diff between last version and this)
> > >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-lastrfcdiff.html
> (rfcdiff between last version and this)
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> This page shows the AUTH48 status of your document:
> > >>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9368
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Thank you,
> > >>>>>> RFC Editor/ap
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Mar 7, 2023, at 7:58 PM, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Thank you. I will try to look at it next week.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 7, 2023 at 6:29 PM Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com>
> wrote:
> > >>>>>>> Hi David,
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Thank you for your approval; it has been noted on the AUTH48
> status page:
> > >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9368
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> We will await Eric’s approval before moving forward with the
> publication process.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Thank you,
> > >>>>>>> RFC Editor/ap
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Mar 7, 2023, at 4:12 PM, David Schinazi <
> dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Thank you so much Alanna. I approve publication of the document.
> > >>>>>>>> David
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 7, 2023 at 3:01 PM Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com>
> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> Hi David,
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> We have updated the document as requested and posted the
> revised files here (please refresh):
> > >>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.txt
> > >>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.pdf
> > >>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.html
> > >>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.xml
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> The relevant diff files are posted here:
> > >>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-diff.html
> (comprehensive diff)
> > >>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-auth48diff.html
> (all AUTH48 changes)
> > >>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-lastdiff.html
> (htmlwdiff diff between last version and this)
> > >>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-lastrfcdiff.html
> (rfcdiff between last version and this)
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Please review and let us know if any additional updates are
> needed or if you approve the RFC for publication.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> This page shows the AUTH48 status of your document:
> > >>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9368
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Thank you,
> > >>>>>>>> RFC Editor/ap
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On Mar 6, 2023, at 2:49 PM, David Schinazi <
> dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Thank you Alanna!
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> I just did my final full readthrough and found one last issue.
> In Section 2.3 (Compatible Version Negotiation), a change to the fifth
> paragraph unintentionally changes the meaning. Here is a crisper phrasing:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> CURRENT:
> > >>>>>>>>> For instance, if the Negotiated Version requires that the
> 5-tuple remain stable for the entire handshake (as QUIC version 1 does),
> then both endpoints need to validate the 5-tuple of all Handshake packets,
> including the converted first flight.
> > >>>>>>>>> FIXED:
> > >>>>>>>>> For instance, if the Negotiated Version requires that the
> 5-tuple remain stable for the entire handshake (as QUIC version 1 does),
> then both endpoints need to validate the 5-tuple of all packets received
> during the handshake, including the converted first flight.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Thank you,
> > >>>>>>>>> David
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 12:21 PM Alanna Paloma <
> apaloma@amsl.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>> Hi David,
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> We have fixed that nit. The update files are here (please
> refresh):
> > >>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.txt
> > >>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.pdf
> > >>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.html
> > >>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.xml
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> The relevant diff files are posted here:
> > >>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-diff.html
> (comprehensive diff)
> > >>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-auth48diff.html
> (all AUTH48 changes)
> > >>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-lastdiff.html
> (htmlwdiff diff between last version and this)
> > >>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-lastrfcdiff.html
> (rfcdiff between last version and this)
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> This page shows the AUTH48 status of your document:
> > >>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9368
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Thank you,
> > >>>>>>>>> RFC Editor/ap
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> On Mar 6, 2023, at 11:28 AM, David Schinazi <
> dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi Alanna,
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the updates. I've found a missing parenthesis. In
> Section 3 (Version Negotiation), the second paragraph needs a parenthesis
> before the final colon:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> CURRENT:
> > >>>>>>>>>> The contents of Version Information are shown below (using
> the notation from Section 1.3 of [QUIC]:
> > >>>>>>>>>> FIXED:
> > >>>>>>>>>> The contents of Version Information are shown below (using
> the notation from Section 1.3 of [QUIC]):
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>>>>>> David
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 8:36 AM Alanna Paloma <
> apaloma@amsl.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi Zahed,
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your approval. We have noted it on the AUTH48
> status page:
> > >>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9368
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> We will await approvals from Davis and Eric prior to moving
> this document forward in the publication process.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
> > >>>>>>>>>> RFC Editor/ap
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2023, at 1:20 PM, Zaheduzzaman Sarker <
> zaheduzzaman.sarker@ericsson.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Approved.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks all for working on this publication.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> //Zahed
> > >>>>>>>>>>> From: Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 4, 2023 2:17:04 AM
> > >>>>>>>>>>> To: David Schinazi <dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com>; Zaheduzzaman
> Sarker <zaheduzzaman.sarker@ericsson.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Cc: RFC Errata System <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>; Eric
> Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>; quic-ads@ietf.org <quic-ads@ietf.org>;
> quic-chairs@ietf.org <quic-chairs@ietf.org>; matt.joras@gmail.com <
> matt.joras@gmail.com>; auth48archive@rfc-editor.org <
> auth48archive@rfc-editor.org>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AD] [C468] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9368
> <draft-ietf-quic-version-negotiation-14> for your review
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi David and Zahed (AD)*,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> *Zahed - Please review and approve of the added text in
> Section 2 and the updated text in Section 5 in the diff file below.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-lastdiff.html
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> David - Thank you for your reply and for contacting IANA to
> update the registry. We have updated the files as you requested.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> The files have been posted here (please refresh):
> > >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.txt
> > >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.pdf
> > >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.html
> > >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.xml
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> The relevant diff files are posted here:
> > >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-diff.html
> (comprehensive diff)
> > >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-auth48diff.html
> (all AUTH48 changes)
> > >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-lastdiff.html
> (htmlwdiff diff between last version and this)
> > >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-lastrfcdiff.html
> (rfcdiff between last version and this)
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> This page shows the AUTH48 status of your document:
> > >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9368
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
> > >>>>>>>>>>> RFC Editor/ap
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 2, 2023, at 6:15 PM, David Schinazi <
> dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Alanna!
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I contacted IANA about the capitalization and they've
> updated the registry to say "Error negotiating version” instead of “Error
> Negotiating Version” in order to match other entries in that registry.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I did a pass on the document and found some changes I'd
> like to make. Here is a diff between our version and yours (we're on the
> left and you're the right)
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url1=https://quicwg.github.io/version-negotiation/auth48/draft-ietf-quic-version-negotiation.txt&url2=https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.txt
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Can you tweak your copy to match the one on the left please?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> (you can ignore the differences in the reference links at
> the end, that's a tooling issue)
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> David
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 3:45 PM Alanna Paloma <
> apaloma@amsl.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your reply.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We have made “Chosen Version” lowercase in the Abstract and
> have capitalized “Original Version” and “Negotiated Version” outside of the
> Abstract and Introduction.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Additionally, we have capitalized “Error Negotiating
> Version” in Section 10.2 to match the IANA registry.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> The files have been posted here (please refresh):
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.txt
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.pdf
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.html
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.xml
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> The relevant diff files are posted here:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-diff.html
> (comprehensive diff)
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-auth48diff.html
> (all AUTH48 changes)
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-lastdiff.html
> (htmlwdiff diff between last version and this)
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-lastrfcdiff.html
> (rfcdiff between last version and this)
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> We will await approvals from each party listed on the
> AUTH48 status page below prior to moving this document forward in the
> publication process.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9368
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> RFC Editor/ap
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2023, at 11:22 AM, David Schinazi <
> dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Alanna.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Since we capitalized "Chosen Version", can we also
> capitalize "Original Version" and "Negotiated Version" please? On that note
> please do not capitalize any of these in the Abstract or Introduction,
> since the terms aren't yet defined at that point and they're used in a more
> vague fashion at that point.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't worry about requesting changes from IANA, they've
> already fixed the typo (RFC Editor is CC'ed on that thread).
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> David
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 12:56 PM Alanna Paloma <
> apaloma@amsl.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your reply. We have updated as requested.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Note that, once we have received all approvals, we will
> ask IANA to update the "QUIC Transport Error Codes” registry to have “Error
> negotiating version” (instead of “Error Negotiating Version”).
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> The files have been posted here (please refresh):
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.xml
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.txt
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.html
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368.pdf
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> The relevant diff files have been posted here:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-diff.html
> (comprehensive diff)
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9368-auth48diff.html
> (AUTH48 changes)
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Please review the document carefully and contact us with
> any further updates you may have.  Note that we do not make changes once a
> document is published as an RFC.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> We will await approvals from each party listed on the
> AUTH48 status page below prior to moving this document forward in the
> publication process.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9368
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> RFC Editor/ap
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2023, at 10:40 AM, David Schinazi <
> dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your work on this document! Responses to
> your questions are inline.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2023 at 4:42 PM <
> rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Authors,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please
> resolve (as necessary) the following questions, which are also in the XML
> file.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) <!--[rfced] FYI: Section 10.2. We have updated the
> "Description" text
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> below to match the text in the IANA "QUIC Transport Error
> Codes"
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> registry (i.e., updated "Error negotiating version" to
> "Error
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> negotiation version").
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Value:  0x11
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Code:  VERSION_NEGOTIATION_ERROR
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Description:  Error negotiating version
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Status:  permanent
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Specification:  This document
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Current:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Value:  0x11
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Code:  VERSION_NEGOTIATION_ERROR
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Description:  Error negotiation version
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Status:  permanent
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Specification:  RFC 9368
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -->
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The change from "Error negotiating version" to "Error
> negotiation version" was a typo made by IANA. I've emailed them about it to
> have them fix the registry and CCed you. Please revert the change to the
> document as the correct description is "Error negotiating version".
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) <!--[rfced] Throughout the text, the following
> terminology appears to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be used inconsistently. Please review these occurrences
> and let
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> us know if/how they may be made consistent.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Chosen Version vs. chosen version (when not "Chosen
> Version field")
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's use "Chosen Version" to match "Partially Deployed
> Versions" and "Fully Deployed Versions" (see below).
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Retry vs. retry (when not "Retry packet")
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> RFC 9000 (which defines Retry) seems to always capitalize
> Retry, so let's do that here too.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In addition, may we capitalize these terms as follows:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Handshake packet" (instead of "handshake packet")
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   [Note: this change will match use in the companion
> document and
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>    will be consistent with the capitalization of the
> other packet
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>    names.]
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Partially Deployed Versions" (instead of
> "partially-deployed versions")
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   [Note: this change will match how "Fully Deployed
> Versions" appears
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>    in the text.]
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sounds good to me.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -->
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language"
> portion of the online
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Style Guide <
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and let us know if any changes are needed.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Note that our script did not flag any words in
> particular, but this should still
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be reviewed as a best practice.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not aware of any further needed changes due to
> inclusive language.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -->
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> RFC Editor/ap/kc
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2023, at 4:40 PM, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org
> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> RFC9368 (draft-ietf-quic-version-negotiation-14)
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Title            : Compatible Version Negotiation for QUIC
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Author(s)        : D. Schinazi, E. Rescorla
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> WG Chair(s)      : Matt Joras, Lucas Pardue
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Area Director(s) : Martin Duke, Zaheduzzaman Sarker
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
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