Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9391 <draft-ietf-lpwan-schc-over-nbiot-15> for your review
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Authors, While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as necessary) the following questions, which are also in the XML file. 1) <!--[rfced] To match the document title more closely, we updated the short title that spans the header of the PDF as follows. Please let us know of any objections. Original: LPWAN SCHC NB-IoT Current: SCHC over NB-IoT --> 2) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear in the title) for use on https://www.rfc-editor.org/search. --> 3) <!--[rfced] We believe that Section 5.1 provides more than 1 scenario, so may we update "a scenario" to "scenarios" in this sentence for clarity and "standard" to "normative" for consistency with the section title? Original: This document has two parts, a standard end-to-end scenario describing how any application must use SCHC over the 3GPP public service. And informational scenarios about how 3GPP could use SCHC in their protocol stack network. Perhaps: This document has two parts: normative end-to-end scenarios describing how any application must use SCHC over the 3GPP public service and informational scenarios about how 3GPP could use SCHC in their protocol stack network. --> 4) <!-- [rfced] To make the terminology list complete and parallel, may we add definitions for the following terms? If so, please provide the desired text. Device - User Equipment (Dev-UE) Data over Non-Access Stratum (DoNAS) Hybrid Automatic Repeat Request (HARQ) Non-Access Stratum (NAS) Network Gateway - CIoT Serving Gateway Node (NGW-CSGN) Non-IP Data Delivery (NIDD) --> 5) <!--[rfced] For the description of "NGW-PGW" in Section 3, is it an interface between the internal and external network? Please clarify. Original: NGW-PGW. Network Gateway - Packet Data Network Gateway. An interface between the internal with the external network. Perhaps: Network Gateway - Packet Data Network Gateway (NGW-PGW): An interface between the internal and external network. --> 6) <!-- [rfced] May we update this sentence as shown below to match use in other RFCs (i.e., "path connectivity" instead of "Connectivity path" and "device monitoring" instead of "Device Monitoring")? Original: The main functions of the NGW-SCEF are Connectivity path and Device Monitoring. Perhaps: The main functions of the NGW-SCEF are path connectivity and device monitoring. --> 7) <!-- [rfced] To avoid the use of incomplete sentence structures, may we update the use cases (First, Second, third) to complete sentences as follows? Original: This document identifies the use cases of SCHC over the NB-IoT architecture. First, the radio transmission where, see Section 5.2.1, the Dev-UE and the RGW-eNB can use the SCHC functionalities. Second, the packets transmitted over the control path can also use SCHC when the transmission goes over the NGW-MME or NGW-SCEF. See Section 5.2.2. These two use cases are also valid for any 3GPP architecture and not only for NB-IoT. And as the 3GPP internal network is involved, they have been put in the informational part of this section. And third, over the SCHC over Non-IP Data Delivery (NIDD) connection or at least up to the operator network edge, see Section 5.1.1. Suggested: This document identifies the use cases of SCHC over the NB-IoT architecture. The first use case is of the radio transmission (see Section 5.2.1) where the Dev-UE and the RGW-eNB can use the SCHC functionalities. The second is where the packets transmitted over the control path can also use SCHC when the transmission goes over the NGW-MME or NGW- SCEF (see Section 5.2.2). These two use cases are also valid for any 3GPP architecture and not only for NB-IoT. And as the 3GPP internal network is involved, they have been put in the informational part of this section. And the third covers the SCHC over Non-IP Data Delivery (NIDD) connection or at least up to the operator network edge (see Section 5.1.1). --> 8) <!--[rfced] Would the titles of Sections 5.1 and 5.2 be clearer if "Part" was updated as "Scenarios"? Please review and let us know your preference. Original: 5.1 Normative Part 5.2 Informational Part Perhaps: 5.1 Normative Scenarios 5.2 Informational Scenarios --> 9) <!-- [rfced] For clarity and easier readability, we split this sentence into two sentences. Please clarify if "for use with the operators" is correct or if it should perhaps be "for use by operators". Original: The RuleID field size may range from 2 bits, resulting in 4 rules to an 8-bit value that would yield up to 256 rules that can be used with the operators and seems quite a reasonable maximum limit even for a device acting as a NAT. Current: The RuleID field size may range from 2 bits, resulting in 4 rules, to an 8-bit value, yielding up to 256 rules for use with the operators. A 256-rule maximum limit seems to be quite reasonable, even for a device acting as a NAT. Perhaps: The RuleID field size may range from 2 bits, resulting in 4 rules, to an 8-bit value, yielding up to 256 rules for use by operators. A 256-rule maximum limit seems to be quite reasonable, even for a device acting as a NAT. --> 10) <!-- [rfced] FYI: We have used the <sup> element for superscript in this document. You can view how it looks in Section 5.1.1.2. Note: In the HTML and PDF, it appears as superscript. In the text output, <sup> generates "2^(N-1)". Original: * WINDOW_SIZE of 2^N-1 is RECOMMENDED. Current (in the text output): * WINDOW_SIZE of 2^(N-1) is RECOMMENDED. --> 11) <!--[rfced] Regarding Table 10.5.163a of [TS24008], please confirm if units of N can only be "1 hour or 10 hours" or if N can be a range of "1 hour to 10 hours". Original: Table 10.5.163a in [TS24008] specifies a range for the radio timers as N to 3N in increments of one where the units of N can be 1 hour or 10 hours. Perhaps: Table 10.5.163a in [TS24008] specifies a range for the radio timers as N to 3N in increments of 1 where the units of N can be 1 hour to 10 hours. --> 12) <!--[rfced] Please clarify the following titles. Are SCHC entities placed over the radio link (and over DoNAS)? If so, please let us know if option A or B may capture the intended meaning. Original: 5.2.1.1. SCHC Entities Placing over the Radio Link 5.2.2.1. SCHC Entities Placing over DoNAS Perhaps: A) 5.2.1.1. SCHC Entity Placement over the Radio Link 5.2.2.1. SCHC Entity Placement over DoNAS or B) 5.2.1.1 Placing SCHC Entities over the Radio Link 5.2.2.1 Placing SCHC Entities over DoNAS --> 13) <!-- [rfced] We are unable to parse this sentence, specifically "unless for". Is fragmentation taken care of "for" or "except for" the TM? Please let us know how we may update this for clarity. Original: The RLC layer takes care of fragmentation unless for the Transparent Mode. Perhaps: A) The RLC layer takes care of fragmentation for the TM. or B) The RLC layer takes care of fragmentation except for the TM. --> 14) <!--[rfced] Is "Transparent Mode transmission mode" correct, or should it be "Transparent Mode transmission" (i.e., remove "mode" to avoid redundancy)? Original: However, if other protocol overhead optimizations are targeted for NB-IoT traffic, SCHC fragmentation may be used for TM transmission mode in the future. Perhaps: However, if other protocol overhead optimizations are targeted for NB-IoT traffic, SCHC fragmentation may be used for TM transmission in the future. --> 15) <!-- [rfced] How may we clarify how the last part of the sentence (starting at "and a good resource optimization...") relates to the rest of the sentence? Note that there is similar text in Appendix B. Original: Depending on the size of buffered data to transmit, the Dev-UE might deploy the connected mode transmissions instead, limiting and controlling the DoNAS transmissions to predefined thresholds and a good resource optimization balance for the terminal and the network. Perhaps: Depending on the size of buffered data to be transmitted, the Dev-UE might deploy the connected mode transmissions instead, which would limit and control the DoNAS transmissions to predefined thresholds and would be a good resource optimization balance for the terminal and the network. --> 16) <!--[rfced] Since RFC 5795 and [TS36323] both discuss "ROHC", we moved "operation" before the citations as shown below. If that is not correct, please let us know. Also, should "has made for" be "has been made for" or other for clarity? Original: It will configure SCHC and the static context distribution as it has made for ROHC [RFC5795] operation [TS36323]. Current: It will configure SCHC and the static context distribution as it has made for ROHC operation [RFC5795] [TS36323]. Perhaps: It will configure SCHC and the static context distribution as it has been made for ROHC operation [RFC5795] [TS36323]. --> 17) <!-- [rfced] How may we clarify who/what needs to "get more rules to deal with each case"? Also, would "apply" or "develop" more rules perhaps be clearer than "get" more rules? Original: The use of IPv6 and IPv4 may force to get more rules to deal with each case. Perhaps: The use of IPv6 and IPv4 may force the operator to develop more rules to deal with each case. --> 18) <!-- [rfced] For reference [3GPP-R15], is the intention to link to the 3GPP homepage or directly to Release 15? If the latter, may we update the title to "Release 15" and the URL to "https://www.3gpp.org/specifications-technologies/releases/release-15"? Original: [_3GPPR15] 3GPP, "The Mobile Broadband Standard", 2019, <https://www.3gpp.org/release-15>. Perhaps: [R15-3GPP] 3GPP, "Release 15", April 2019, <https://www.3gpp.org/specifications-technologies/ releases/release-15>. --> 19) <!-- [rfced] The titles of the following references do not match the titles of the corresponding documents in the zip files. We have updated the titles to match as shown below; please review and let us know if any further updates are needed. A) Original: [TR24301] 3GPP, "Evolved Universal Terrestrial Radio Access (E-UTRA); Medium Access Control (MAC) protocol specification", 2019, <https://www.3gpp.org/ftp//Specs/ archive/24_series/24.301/24301-f80.zip>. Current: [TR24301] 3GPP, "Non-Access-Stratum (NAS) protocol for Evolved Packet System (EPS); Stage 3", 3GPP TS 24.301 V15.8.0, December 2019, <https://www.3gpp.org/ftp//Specs/ archive/24_series/24.301/24301-f80.zip>. B) Original: [TS23222] 3GPP, "Common API Framework for 3GPP Northbound APIs", 2022, <https://www.3gpp.org/ftp/Specs/ archive/23_series/23.222/23222-f60.zip>. Current: [TS23222] 3GPP, "Functional architecture and information flows to support Common API Framework for 3GPP Northbound APIs; Stage 2", 3GPP TS 23.222 V15.6.0, September 2022, <https://www.3gpp.org/ftp/Specs/ archive/23_series/23.222/23222-f60.zip>. C) Original: [TS24008] 3GPP, "Mobile radio interface layer 3 specification.", 2018, <https://www.3gpp.org/ftp//Specs/ archive/24_series/24.008/24008-f50.zip>. Current: [TS24008] 3GPP, "Mobile radio interface Layer 3 specification; Core network protocols; Stage 3", 3GPP TS 24.008 V15.5.0, December 2018, <https://www.3gpp.org/ftp//Specs/ archive/24_series/24.008/24008-f50.zip>. --> 20) <!-- [rfced] FYI: As shown below, we moved the citations from the section titles to the corresponding section body text so that the reader is given clickable links. Original: A.1. Packet Data Convergence Protocol (PDCP) [TS36323] Each of the Radio Bearers (RB) is associated with one PDCP entity. Current: A.1. Packet Data Convergence Protocol (PDCP) Each of the Radio Bearers (RBs) is associated with one PDCP entity [TS36323]. ... Original: A.2. Radio Link Protocol (RLC) [TS36322] RLC is a layer-2 protocol that operates between the UE and the base station (eNB). Current: A.2. Radio Link Protocol (RLC) RLC [TS36322] is a Layer 2 protocol that operates between the UE and the base station (eNB). ... Original: A.3. Medium Access Control (MAC) [TR36321] MAC provides a mapping between the higher layers abstraction called Logical Channels comprised by the previously described protocols to the Physical layer channels (transport channels). Current: A.3. Medium Access Control (MAC) MAC [TR36321] provides a mapping between the higher layers abstraction called Logical Channels comprised by the previously described protocols to the Physical layer channels (transport channels). --> 21) <!-- [rfced] Does "on top of" mean that the reliability service is physically on top of the lower-layer service, or does this instance of "on top of" mean "in addition to"? Original: * Acknowledged Mode (AM). In addition to the same functions supported by UM, this mode also adds a moving windows-based reliability service on top of the lower layer services. Perhaps: * Acknowledged Mode (AM) In addition to the same functions supported by UM, this mode also adds a moving windows-based reliability service in addition to the lower-layer services. --> 22) <!-- [rfced] We would like to update this sentence to clarify what the acknowledgment reports are called. Also, please clarify if bidirectional communication is required to "exchange" trigger retransmissions (option A) or to "trigger" retransmissions (option B). Original: It also supports re-segmentation, and it requires bidirectional communication to exchange acknowledgment reports called RLC Status Report and the trigger retransmissions. Perhaps: A) It also supports re-segmentation, and it requires bidirectional communication to exchange acknowledgment reports, called RLC Status Reports, and trigger retransmissions. or B) It also supports re-segmentation, and it requires bidirectional communication to exchange acknowledgment reports, called RLC Status Reports, and to trigger retransmissions. --> 23) <!-- [rfced] FYI: We updated this sentence as shown below for clarity by enclosing the description of the Logical Channels in parentheses and changing "to" to "and". Please let us know of any objections. Original: MAC provides a mapping between the higher layers abstraction called Logical Channels comprised by the previously described protocols to the Physical layer channels (transport channels). Current: MAC provides a mapping between the higher layers abstraction called Logical Channels (which are comprised by the previously described protocols) and the Physical layer channels (transport channels). --> 24) <!--[rfced] Does "what" refer to the "packets"? If so, may we update "what" to "which ones" for clarity? Original: Additionally, MAC may multiplex packets from different Logical Channels and prioritize what to fit into one Transport Block if there is data and space available to maximize data transmission efficiency. Perhaps: Additionally, MAC may multiplex packets from different Logical Channels and prioritize which ones to fit into one Transport Block if there is data and space available to maximize data transmission efficiency. --> 25) <!-- [rfced] Please clarify how the last part of the sentence relates to the rest of the sentence. Does "but with the same support..." modify "the overhead"? Original: In this case, the protocol overhead might be smaller than the AM case because of the lack of status reporting but with the same support for segmentation up to 1600 bytes. Perhaps: In this case, the protocol overhead might be smaller than the AM case because of the lack of status reporting, but the overhead would have the same support for segmentation up to 1600 bytes. --> 26) <!-- [rfced] Terminology a) Throughout the text, the following terminology appears to be used inconsistently. Please review these occurrences and let us know if/how they may be made consistent. Hybrid Automatic Repeat Request vs. Hybrid Automatic Repeat reQuest Non-IP vs. non-IP Physical Layer vs. physical layer Radio link vs. Radio Link vs. radio link RuleID vs. Rule ID Word vs. word (e.g., L2 Word vs. Layer 2 word) b) "Dev-UE" is inconsistently expanded as "Device - User Equipment" and "Device-User Equipment". To avoid awkward hyphenation and because "UE" is commonly known as "User Equipment", may we update the expansion to "Device UE"? Original: Device - User Equipment (Dev-UE) Device-User Equipment (Dev-UE) Perhaps: Device UE (Dev-UE) c) FYI: We updated the case of following terms as shown below: Layer 2 (per common use in RFCs) Static Context Header Compression and fragmentation (SCHC) (per RFC 8724) d) The Web Portion of the RFC Style Guide (https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/) recommends that once an abbreviation has been introduced, the abbreviated form should be used thereafter. 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Thank you for your cooperation, RFC Editor -------------------------------------- RFC9391 (draft-ietf-lpwan-schc-over-nbiot-15) Title : Static Context Header Compression over Narrowband Internet of Things Author(s) : E. Ramos, A. Minaburo WG Chair(s) : Alexander Pelov, Pascal Thubert Area Director(s) : Erik Kline, Éric Vyncke
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