Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9436 <draft-ietf-pim-rfc8736bis-04> for your review

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Subject: Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9436 <draft-ietf-pim-rfc8736bis-04> for your review
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Authors,

While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as necessary) the following questions, which are also in the XML file.

1) <!-- [rfced] We have some specific questions about the IANA text in the
document:

a) IANA noted the following about Table 1:

   Because we typically leave unassigned values unreferenced, we
   didn't include Table 1's the reference to this document for
   values 13.0-15.14.

We have thus removed the reference to this document for types 13.0-15.14
(Unassigned) to match the "PIM Message Types" registry at
https://www.iana.org/assignments/pim-parameters/pim-parameters.xhtml#message-types.


b) The "PIM Message Types" registry at
https://www.iana.org/assignments/pim-parameters/pim-parameters.xhtml#message-types
includes assignments for the following types/bits. Should these be included in Table 1? 

Note that draft-ietf-pim-null-register-packing-16 and
draft-ietf-pim-assert-packing-12 will move to AUTH48 in the next week or
two. 

type 2 (Register Stop), bit 0 (Packing Capability" - [RFC-ietf-pim-null-register-packing-16]

type 5 (Assert), bit 0 (Packed) - [RFC-ietf-pim-assert-packing-12]

type 5 (Assert), bit 1 (Aggregated) - [RFC-ietf-pim-assert-packing-12]

type 13.0 (PIM Packed Null-Register) - [RFC-ietf-pim-null-register-packing-16]

type 13.1 (PIM Packed Register-Stop) - [RFC-ietf-pim-null-register-packing-16]


c) Should this text mention the bits that are already assigned (i.e., the bits
described in Sections 4.1-4.3)?

Original:
   This document updates the "PIM Message Types" registry to indicate
   which flag bits are defined for use by each of the PIM message types,
   and changes their registration status to Unassigned, as shown in
   Table 1.

Perhaps:
   This document updates the "PIM Message Types" registry to indicate
   which flag bits are defined for use by each of the PIM message types
   and changes their registration status to Unassigned except where the bits
   have already been specified, as shown in Table 1.  
-->


2) <!-- [rfced] While we understand the original document (RFC 8736) was published with some
of the text we are questioning below, the questions are aimed at making
the text as correct as possible. Please let us know if these updates are
incorrect or undesirable.

a) May we update this sentence to either change "currently" to "current" or to
remove "currently" altogether? Note that this sentence appears in both the
abstract and the introduction.

Original:
   This document updates RFC7761 and RFC3973 by defining the use of the
   currently Reserved field in the PIM common header.
   
Perhaps:
   This document updates RFC 7761 and RFC 3973 by defining the use of the
   current Reserved field in the PIM common header.
   
Or:
   This document updates RFC 7761 and RFC 3973 by defining the use of the
   Reserved field in the PIM common header.


b) Please review "currently reserved bits" in this sentence. Is this correct
now as the bits are not reserved but either assigned (per Sections 4.1-4.4) or
unassigned? Note that this sentence appears in both the abstract and the
introduction.

Original:
   This document
   further updates RFC7761 and RFC3973, along with RFC5015, RFC5059,
   RFC6754, and RFC8364, by specifying the use of the currently reserved
   bits for each PIM message.

Perhaps:
   This document
   further updates RFCs 7761 and 3973, along with RFCs 5015, 5059, 6754,
   and 8364, by specifying the use of the bits for
   each PIM message.
   

c) May we update this title to use "PIM Flooding Mechanism" rather than "PFM"?
PRM is not used elsewhere in the document, and "PIM Flooding Mechanism" is the
name used in the "PIM Message Types" registry for type 12.

Original:
   4.3.  Flag Bits for Type 12 (PFM)

Perhaps: 
     4.3.  Flag Bits for Type 12 (PIM Flooding Mechanism)


d) In this document, it seems that the capped "Flag Bits" is used for the name
of the field and the lowercase "flag bits" is used in general text. Please
review "Flag Bits" in this sentence. Should this read "Flag Bits field" or
"flag bits"? Or is the current okay?
       
Original:
   In Section 5, this document specifies the use of the Flag
   Bits for message types 13, 14, and 15 in order to extend the PIM type
   space.  
-->


3) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the online 
Style Guide <https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language>
and let us know if any changes are needed.

Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but this should 
still be reviewed as a best practice.
-->


Thank you.

RFC Editor/st/rv



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RFC9436 (draft-ietf-pim-rfc8736bis-04)

Title            : PIM Message Type Space Extension and Reserved Bits
Author(s)        : S. Venaas, A. Retana
WG Chair(s)      : Stig Venaas, Mike McBride

Area Director(s) : Alvaro Retana, John Scudder, Andrew Alston