Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9524 <draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment-19> for your review

"Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang" <zzhang@juniper.net> Tue, 13 February 2024 18:49 UTC

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Subject: Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9524 <draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment-19> for your review
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I approve the changes.


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From: Rishabh Parekh (riparekh) <riparekh@cisco.com>
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Subject: RE: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9524 <draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment-19> for your review

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I have reviewed the document and I approve the publication of this document.

Thanks,
-Rishabh

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Megan Ferguson <mferguson@amsl.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2024 11:28 AM
> To: Rishabh Parekh (riparekh) <riparekh@cisco.com>
> Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org; daniel.voyer@bell.ca; Clarence Filsfils
> (cfilsfil) <cfilsfil@cisco.com>; hooman.bidgoli@nokia.com;
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> Mankamana Mishra (mankamis) <mankamis@cisco.com>;
> james.n.guichard@futurewei.com; auth48archive@rfc-editor.org
> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9524
> <draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment-
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> Rishabh,
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> Thank you for your reply and the updated file.  We have reposted our
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> RFC Editor/mf
>
>
>
> > On Feb 9, 2024, at 4:23 PM, Rishabh Parekh (riparekh)
> > <riparekh@cisco.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Replies inline @ [RP]
> >
> > I have made some of suggested changes in attached XML file.
> >
> > -Rishabh
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Megan Ferguson <mferguson@amsl.com>
> >> Sent: Monday, February 5, 2024 5:05 PM
> >> To: Rishabh Parekh (riparekh) <riparekh@cisco.com>
> >> Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org; daniel.voyer@bell.ca; Clarence
> >> Filsfils (cfilsfil) <cfilsfil@cisco.com>; hooman.bidgoli@nokia.com;
> >> zzhang@juniper.net; spring- ads@ietf.org; spring-chairs@ietf.org;
> >> Mankamana Mishra (mankamis) <mankamis@cisco.com>;
> >> james.n.guichard@futurewei.com; auth48archive@rfc-editor.org
> >> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9524
> >> <draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment-
> >> 19> for your review
> >>
> >> Hi Rishabh,
> >>
> >> Thank you for sending along your edited file and responses to our queries.
> >>
> >> We have combined the two and posted the updated files below.
> >>
> >> We also had a few additional questions:
> >>
> >> 1.) It looks like we missed sending the following question:
> >>
> >> <!--[rfced] We had a few questions regarding the following text:
> >>
> >> Original:
> >> Given the definition of the Replication segment in this document,
> >> an attacker subverting ingress filter above cannot take advantage
> >> of a stack of replication segments to perform amplification attacks
> >> nor link
> exhaustion attacks.
> >>
> >> a) Would it be helpful to the reader to point them to the section
> >> in which they can find the definition of “Replication segment”
> >> (i.e., Section 1.1,
> Section 2)?
> >
> > [RP] I don't think it is necessary to refer to the definition. We
> > can assume the
> reader has read the preceding sections before the Security section.
> >
> >>
> >> b) It might help the reader to clarify what/where “above” is referring to.
> >> We see this as the only instance of “ingress filters” in the document.
> >>
> >
> > [RP] I don't think it is necessary, but if the RFC editors think it
> > will help to
> clarify "above", please do so.
> >
> >> c) (Maybe depending on the response to b above) Should “subverting
> >> ingress filter”
> >> be made either “subverting ingress filters” (plural) or “subverting
> >> an ingress filter”?
> >>
> >
> > [RP] I see that latest XML has changed this to plural "ingress
> > filters" which is
> fine.
> >
> >> —>
> >>
> >> 2.) And we would like you to further review the use of “Replication state” vs.
> >> “Replication segment state”.
> >>
> >
> > [RP] I have changed text for "Replication segment state" in the
> > attached XML
> file.
> >
> >> 3) In the pseudocode, may we put parentheses around the following?
> >>
> >> Original:
> >>   S01.   Lookup FUNCT portion of S to get Replication state RS
> >>
> >> Perhaps:
> >>   S01.   Lookup FUNCT portion of S to get Replication state (RS)
> >
> > [RP] I have made the change in attached XML file.
> >
> >>
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> >> (comprehensive side-
> >> by-side)
> >>
> >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9
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> >>
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> >>
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> >>
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> >>
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> >> NMMy8BVgZ0dyvedjeZr4wWw2Akmvkl_4$
> >>
> >> Thank you.
> >>
> >> RFC Editor/mf
> >>
> >>> On Jan 26, 2024, at 6:40 PM, Rishabh Parekh (riparekh)
> >> <riparekh=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I have made some of the suggested modifications in the attached
> >>> XML file. For other questions and concerns, please look for my
> >>> inline replies @ [RP]
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> -Rishabh
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>
> >>>> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2024 11:15 AM
> >>>> To: daniel.voyer@bell.ca; Clarence Filsfils (cfilsfil)
> >>>> <cfilsfil@cisco.com>; Rishabh Parekh (riparekh)
> >>>> <riparekh@cisco.com>; hooman.bidgoli@nokia.com;
> >>>> zzhang@juniper.net
> >>>> Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org; spring-ads@ietf.org;
> >>>> spring-chairs@ietf.org; Mankamana Mishra (mankamis)
> >>>> <mankamis@cisco.com>; james.n.guichard@futurewei.com;
> >>>> auth48archive@rfc-editor.org
> >>>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9524
> >>>> <draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment-
> >>>> 19> for your review
> >>>>
> >>>> Authors,
> >>>>
> >>>> While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as
> >>>> necessary) the following questions, which are also in the XML file.
> >>>>
> >>>> 1) <!-- [rfced] Please note that the title of the document has been
> >>>>    updated as follows:
> >>>>
> >>>> a. Abbreviations have been expanded per Section 3.6 of RFC 7322
> >>>> (“RFC Style Guide”).  Additionally, please let us know any
> >>>> suggestions for reducing the redundancy of "Segment" (see our
> >>>> suggestion
> below).
> >>>>
> >>>> b. We have also removed the hyphen from "Multi-point" for
> >>>> consistency with previous RFCs (in the title and throughout).
> >>>> Please review and let us know any objections.
> >>>>
> >>>> Original:
> >>>>
> >>>> SR Replication segment for Multi-point Service Delivery
> >>>>
> >>>> Current:
> >>>>
> >>>> Segment Routing Replication Segment for Multipoint Service
> >>>> Delivery
> >>>>
> >>>> Perhaps:
> >>>> Segment Routing Replication for Multipoint Service Delivery
> >>>> -->
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> [RP] I have changed the tile in the edited XML file.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 2) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear in
> >>>>    the title) for use on https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.rfc-editor.org/search__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!GWPPJyb44g4oCcOOyZSPtpNpSgJa-i17OBNGLAHHpDbjolTKNMMy8BVgZ0dyvedjeZr4wWw2As449bGc$ .
> >>>> -->
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 3) <!--[rfced] We see the following three similar sentences in close
> >>>>    proximity:
> >>>>
> >>>> Original:
> >>>> This Replication segment can be either provisioned locally on
> >>>> ingress and egress nodes, or using dynamic auto-discovery
> >>>> procedures for MVPN
> >> and EVPN.
> >>>>
> >>>> and
> >>>>
> >>>> Original:
> >>>> A Replication segment is a local segment instantiated at a
> >>>> Replication node.  It can be either provisioned locally on a node
> >>>> or
> >> programmed by a control plane.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> [RP] In this sentence the control plane refers to something like a
> >>> PCE rather
> >> than MVPN or EVPN (as used for ingress replication).
> >>>
> >>>> and
> >>>>
> >>>> Original:
> >>>> Replication segments can be stitched together to form a tree by
> >>>> either local provisioning on nodes or using a control plane.
> >>>
> >>> [RP] Again, the control plane refers to PCE in this context as
> >>> explained later in
> >> the paragraph.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> a) Please confirm our update to the first sentence (see below)
> >>>> correctly captures your intent.  Our goal is to make the two
> >>>> phrases joined by
> >> "either"
> >>>> symmetrical.
> >>>>
> >>>> Perhaps:
> >>>> This Replication segment can be either provisioned locally on
> >>>> ingress and egress nodes or using dynamic autodiscovery
> >>>> procedures for MVPN and
> >> EVPN.
> >>>
> >>> [RP] I have rearranged the first sentence to make both options
> >>> (local and
> >> dynamic) symmetrical.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> b) Please review the three similar sentences listed above and
> >>>> ensure that they do not need to be made more uniform and/or
> >>>> review if redundancy should be reduced.
> >>>>
> >>>> -->
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 4) <!--[rfced] In the following, does "Anycast set" mean "a set of
> >>>>    Anycast SIDs"?  Note: this text occurs two times in the text.
> >>>>
> >>>> Original:
> >>>>  *  A Replication node MAY use an Anycast SID or a Border Gateway
> >>>>     Protocol (BGP) PeerSet SID in segment list to send a
> >>>>     replicated packet to one downstream Replication node in an
> >>>> Anycast
> set...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -->
> >>>
> >>> [RP] Anycast-SID is one SID that is shared by multiple nodes in an
> >>> Anycast
> set.
> >> I have re-worded the sentence to make this clear.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 5) <!-- [rfced] We had the following questions regarding the pseudocode in
> >>>>    Section 2.2.1.
> >>>>
> >>>> a) The following line exceeds the 72-character limit. Please let
> >>>> us know how this line can be modified.
> >>>>
> >>>> Original:
> >>>>
> >>>> S03.     Discard the packet
> >>>> S04.     # ICMPv6 Time Exceeded is not permitted (ICMPv6 section below)
> >>>> S05.   }
> >>>>
> >>>> Perhaps:
> >>>>
> >>>> S03.     Discard the packet
> >>>> S04.     # ICMPv6 Time Exceeded is not permitted
> >>>>          (ICMPv6 section below)
> >>>> S05.   }
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> [RP] Fixed
> >>>
> >>>> b) Will it be clear what "ICMPv6 section below" in the
> >>>> parenthetical in point a) above refers to?  Should this be
> >>>> replaced by a specific section number.  Note this occurs more than once.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> [RP] Although it should be clear that this refers to Section
> >>> 2.2.3, changing this
> >> to an explicit reference is fine.
> >>>
> >>>> c) We note that there is no space between PPC and its expansion.
> >>>> May we make the following updates?
> >>>>
> >>>> Original:
> >>>> S20.       Derive packet processing context(PPC) from Segment List
> >>>>
> >>>> Perhaps:
> >>>> S20.       Derive packet processing context (PPC) from Segment List
> >>>>
> >>>> Original:
> >>>> S28.       Derive packet processing context(PPC)
> >>>>
> >>>> Perhaps:
> >>>> S28.       Derive packet processing context (PPC)
> >>>
> >>> [RP] Fixed.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> d) In the pseudocode, we see Upper-layer Header.  In other parts
> >>>> of the document, we mostly see Upper-Layer header (but upper
> >>>> layer headers also appears).  Please let us know if/how these
> >>>> terms may be made consistent in both the pseudocode and the body
> >>>> of the
> document.
> >>>>
> >>>> Original:
> >>>> S12.     # (SR Upper-layer Header Error)
> >>>>
> >>>> Perhaps:
> >>>> S12.     # (SR Upper-Layer header Error)
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> [RP] RFC 8986 uses "Upper-Layer Header" with capital H in title of
> >>> Section
> >> 4.1.1 and "Upper-Layer header" in rest of the text. I think we can
> >> use the same approach.
> >>>
> >>>> e)  Please review our update to the reference to RFC 8986 in the
> >>>> pseudocode and let us know any concerns.
> >>>>
> >>>> Original:
> >>>>  S09.         Execute H.Encaps or H.Encaps.Red with RS.Segment-List
> >>>>               on packet copy #RFC 8986 Section 5.1, 5.2
> >>>>
> >>>> Current:
> >>>>  S09.         Execute H.Encaps or H.Encaps.Red with RS.Segment-List
> >>>>               on packet copy #RFC 8986, Sections 5.1 and 5.2
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> [RP] This is fine.
> >>>
> >>>>    -->
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 6) <!--[rfced] In the first sentence, "transit node" is singular.  In the
> >>>>    second, it's plural (i.e., "The transit nodes...").  Please
> >>>>    review and let us know if/how updates should be made for clarity.
> >>>>
> >>>> Original:
> >>>> The source can then send the Echo Request packet to a transit
> >>>> node's Replication SID.  The transit nodes replicate the packet
> >>>> by replacing the IPv6 destination address till the packet reaches
> >>>> the Leaf/Bud node which responds with an ICMPv6 Echo Reply.
> >>>>
> >>>> Perhaps:
> >>>> The source can then send the Echo Request packet to a transit
> >>>> node's Replication SID.  The transit node replicates the packet
> >>>> by replacing the IPv6 destination address until the packet
> >>>> reaches the Leaf/Bud node, which responds with an ICMPv6 Echo Reply.
> >>>
> >>> [RP] I have made the suggested change in edited XML file.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -->
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 7) <!--[rfced] In the following text:
> >>>>
> >>>> Original:
> >>>> Traceroute to a Leaf/Bud node Replication SID is not possible due
> >>>> to restriction prohibiting origination of ICMPv6 Time Exceeded
> >>>> error message for a Replication SID as described in the section below.
> >>>>
> >>>> Current:
> >>>> Traceroute to a Leaf/Bud node Replication SID is not possible due
> >>>> to restrictions prohibiting the origination of the ICMPv6 Time
> >>>> Exceeded error message for a Replication SID as described in Section 2.2.3.
> >>>>
> >>>> a) Please review our update to make "restrictions" plural.
> >>>>
> >>>> b) Please also confirm the update to point to Section 2.2.3.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> [RP] The changes are fine.
> >>>
> >>>> -->
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 8) <!--[rfced] In the following, the close proximity of two occurrences
> >>>>    of "from" makes this sentence possibly difficult to parse on a
> >>>>    single read-through.  Might the following suggested text be
> >>>>    acceptable?
> >>>>
> >>>> Original:
> >>>> This is to prevent a storm of ICMPv6 error messages resulting
> >>>> from replicated
> >>>> IPv6 packets from overwhelming a source node.
> >>>>
> >>>> Perhaps:
> >>>> This is to prevent a source node from being overwhelmed by a
> >>>> storm of
> >>>> ICMPv6 error messages resulting from replicated IPv6 packets.
> >>>> -->
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> [RP] I have made the suggested change in edited XML file.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 9) <!--[rfced] Please review the list in the Security Considerations
> >>>>    section.  While most points begin with a verb phrase, a few
> >>>>    points do not.  Please let us know if/how we may make this list
> >>>>    parallel in structure.
> >>>>
> >>>> Original:
> >>>>
> >>>>  *  For SR-MPLS deployments:
> >>>>
> >>>>     -  By disabling MPLS on external interfaces of each edge node or
> >>>>        any other technique to filter labeled traffic ingress on these
> >>>>        interfaces.
> >>>>
> >>>>  *  For SRv6 deployments:
> >>>>
> >>>>     -  Allocate all the SIDs from an IPv6 prefix block S/s and
> >>>>        configure each external interface of each edge node of the
> >>>>        domain with an inbound infrastructure access list (IACL) that
> >>>>        drops any incoming packet with a destination address in S/s.
> >>>>
> >>>>     -  Additionally, an iACL may be applied to all nodes (k)
> >>>>        provisioning SIDs as defined in this specification:
> >>>>
> >>>>        o  Assign all interface addresses from within IPv6 prefix A/a.
> >>>>           At node k, all SIDs local to k are assigned from prefix Sk/
> >>>>           sk.  Configure each internal interface of each SR node k in
> >>>>           the SR domain with an inbound IACL that drops any incoming
> >>>>           packet with a destination address in Sk/sk if the source
> >>>>           address is not in A/a.
> >>>>
> >>>>     -  Denying traffic with spoofed source addresses by implementing
> >>>>        recommendations in BCP 84 [RFC3704].
> >>>>
> >>>>     -  Additionally the block S/s from which SIDs are allocated may be
> >>>>        a non-globally-routable address such as ULA or the prefix
> >>>>        defined in [I-D.ietf-6man-sids].
> >>>> -->
> >>>
> >>> [RP] The updated text is fine.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 10) <!--[rfced] This sentence may be easier to get through on a single
> >>>>    read if broken into a list as follows.  Please let us know if
> >>>>    this is agreeable.
> >>>>
> >>>> Original:
> >>>> If an attacker can forge an IPv6 packet with source address of a
> >>>> node, Replication SID as destination address and an IPv6 Hop
> >>>> Limit such that nodes which forward replicated packets on IPv6
> >>>> locator unicast prefix, decrement the Hop Limit to zero, then
> >>>> these nodes can cause a storm of
> >>>> ICMPv6 Error packets to overwhelm the source node under attack.
> >>>>
> >>>> Perhaps:
> >>>>
> >>>> If an attacker can forge an IPv6 packet with:
> >>>>
> >>>> * the source address of a node,
> >>>> * a Replication SID as the destination address, and
> >>>> * an IPv6 Hop Limit such that nodes that forward replicated
> >>>> packets on an IPv6 locator unicast prefix decrement the Hop Limit
> >>>> to zero,
> >>>>
> >>>> then these nodes can cause a storm of ICMPv6 error packets to
> >>>> overwhelm the source node under attack.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> [RP] I have split up the sentence as suggested in edited XML file.
> >>>
> >>>> -->
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 11) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "type" attribute of each sourcecode
> >>>>    element in the XML file to ensure correctness. If the current
> >>>>    list of preferred values for "type"
> >>>>    (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.rfc-editor.org/materials/sourcecode-types.txt__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!GWPPJyb44g4oCcOOyZSPtpNpSgJa-i17OBNGLAHHpDbjolTKNMMy8BVgZ0dyvedjeZr4wWw2AuFW70Lo$ ) does
> >>>>    not contain an applicable type, then feel free to let us
> >>>>    know. Also, it is acceptable to leave the "type" attribute not
> >>>>    set.
> >>>
> >>> [RP] "pseudocode" type is appropriate.
> >>>
> >>>> -->
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 12) <!-- [rfced] We have a few questions regarding the terms used in this
> >>>>    document.
> >>>>
> >>>> a. End.Replicate is treated differently in the two instances below.
> >>>> Please review and let us know if/how these should be made uniform.
> >>>> Perhaps this term should be added to the Terminology section in
> >>>> lieu of the
> >> two descriptions?
> >>>>
> >>>> Original:
> >>>> “Endpoint with replication” behavior (End.Replicate for short)
> >>>>
> >>>> and
> >>>>
> >>>> Original:
> >>>> The "Endpoint with replication and/or decapsulate behavior
> >>>> (End.Replicate for
> >>>> short) is variant of End behavior.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> [RP] I have made changes to make both of this consistent (by using "
> >>> Endpoint
> >> with replication and/or decapsulate") in the edited XML file.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> b. Regarding hyphenation and capitalization of the following terms:
> >>>>
> >>>> i. Anycast SID: This term appears without a hyphen throughout the
> >>>> document, but in cited RFCs, it appears as Anycast-SID. May we
> >>>> update to the hyphenated form for consistency with these previous RFCs?
> >>>>
> >>> [RP] Yes, please update.
> >>>
> >>>> ii. Adjacency SID: This term seems to be "Adj-SID" in RFC 8402.
> >>>> Please review this usage and let us know if we can adjust to use "Adj-SID"
> >>>> for consistency with this cited RFC.
> >>>>
> >>> [RP] Yes, please use "Adj-SID"
> >>>
> >>>> iii. Replication SID: This term appears both hyphenated and
> >>>> without a hyphen (and in lowercase at times) throughout the
> >>>> document. May we update all instances to "Replication-SID", for
> >>>> consistency with the previous related terms and cited RFCs?
> >>>>
> >>> [RP] Yes, please update to "Replication-SID"
> >>>
> >>>> iv. FYI - Related to the above, we see the following terms in the
> >>>> document:
> >>>>
> >>>> Node-SID
> >>>> PeerSet SID
> >>>> context SID
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> [RP] RFC 8402 uses "Node-SID" and "PeerSet SID" (without
> >>> hyphenation) and
> >> we have adopted it from there, but it is fine to use "PeerSet-SID".
> >> "context
> SID"
> >> is introduced in this document and can therefore be changed to
> >> "context-
> SID".
> >>>
> >>>> In addition to:
> >>>> R-SID
> >>>> A-SID
> >>>> N-SID
> >>>>
> >>>> Please consider these when making decisions related to i-iii above.
> >>>>
> >>>> c. Several terms in this document appear separated with a slash
> >>>> (/), but it is unclear whether the slash stands for "and", "or",
> >>>> or "and/or". Please review uses of the slash throughout this
> >>>> document and let us know how to adjust for clarity.
> >>>>
> >>> [RP] I have replaced all occurrences of  slash (/) in "Leaf/Bud"
> >>> and
> >> "MVPN/EVPN" with "and" or "or" as appropriate. Please let me know
> >> if there are any other ambiguous usage of the slash.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> d. Should the following capitalized terms (seemingly node names)
> >>>> be changed to lowercase throughout for consistency with previous RFCs?
> >>>>
> >>>> Downstream
> >>>> Root
> >>>> Leaf
> >>>> Bud
> >>>>
> >>>> Related: We see both Replication node and Non-replication node.
> >>>> Please consider if all node name should be lowercase in light of the above.
> >>>>
> >>> [RP] Yes, these can be changed to lowercase.
> >>>
> >>>> e. We have updated the following terms to use the form on the right.
> >>>> Please review and let us know any objections:
> >>>>
> >>>> Active Segment / active segment (to match RFC 8402) replication
> >>>> branch / Replication branch
> >>>>
> >>> [RP] Change to "active segment" is fine, but I don't think
> >>> "Replication
> branch"
> >> change is appropriate because lowercase "replication" is used to
> >> signify the act of replication instead of needing a proper noun
> >> with
> uppercase "Replication".
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> f. We see the following terms used inconsistently throughout the
> document.
> >>>> Please review and let us know if/how these may be made uniform.
> >>>>
> >>>> Replication segment vs. Replication Segment vs. replication
> >>>> segment
> >>>
> >>> [RP] I think using "Replication segment" will be consistent.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> f. Please review the following questions about the message names below:
> >>>>
> >>>> i. Should "message" be lowercased or capitalized?
> >>>>
> >>>> Packet Too Big message vs. Parameter Problem Message
> >>>>
> >>>> ii. We see Parameter Problem both with and without ICMPv6.
> >>>> Please review and let us know if/how these uses should be made uniform.
> >>>>
> >>>> iii. May we make the error codes uniform with regard to capping
> >>>> and
> >> ordering?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Originals:
> >>>> ICMPv6 Parameter Problem with Code 0
> >>>> ICMPv6 Parameter Problem with Code 4 an ICMPv6 error message
> >>>> (parameter problem, code 0) Parameter Problem Message, Code 2
> >>>> Parameter Problem Message, code 2 ICMPv6 Error
> >> messages.
> >>>>
> >>>> Perhaps (making assumptions about i, ii, and iii above):
> >>>> ICMPv6 Parameter Problem message with Code 0
> >>>> ICMPv6 Parameter Problem message with Code 4
> >>>> ICMPv6 Parameter Problem message with Code 0
> >>>> ICMPv6 Parameter Problem message with Code 2
> >>>> ICMPv6 Parameter Problem message with Code 2
> >>>>
> >>> [RP] Above suggestion is fine.
> >>>
> >>>> -->
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 13) <!--[rfced] We had the following questions/comments related to
> >>>>    abbreviations used throughout the document:
> >>>>
> >>>> a. FYI - We have expanded the following abbreviations upon first
> >>>> use per Section 3.6 of RFC 7322 ("RFC Style Guide"). Please
> >>>> review each expansion in the document carefully to ensure correctness:
> >>>>
> >>>> Destination Address (DA)
> >>>> Unique Local Address (ULA)
> >>>> Operations, Administration, and Maintenance (OAM)
> >>>>
> >>> [RP] This is fine.
> >>>
> >>>> b. FYI - We will update to use the abbreviated form of the
> >>>> following terms after the abbreviation is expanded on first use.
> >>>> Please let us know any
> >> objections.
> >>>>
> >>>> Destination Address will become DA Replication state will become
> >>>> RS Segment Routing will become SR
> >>>>
> >>> [RP] This Is fine.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> c) Please review this use of POP:
> >>>>
> >>>> Original:
> >>>> ...is a Replication SID, the processing results in a POP [RFC8402]...
> >>>>
> >>>> We do not see POP being expanded as an abbreviation in RFC 8402
> >>>> or any of the normative references.  Please let us know if/how we
> >>>> may expand
> >> it.
> >>>>
> >>> [RP] POP is not used an acronym here. It signifies a "pop"
> >>> operation on the
> >> top label of the label stack.
> >>>
> >>>> d) Please review the expansion and use of IACL/iACL.
> >>>>
> >>>> While we see the same expansion as used in this document in RFC
> >>>> 8754 (see below), we are curious about the 1:1 relationship
> >>>> between the initialism and the expansion.
> >>>>
> >>>> We also note a single use of "iACL" in this document (see below).
> >>>>
> >>>> Original:
> >>>> -  Allocate all the SIDs from an IPv6 prefix block S/s and
> >>>> configure each external interface of each edge node of the
> >>>> domain with an inbound infrastructure access list (IACL) that
> >>>> drops any incoming packet with a destination address in S/s.
> >>>>
> >>>> then later:
> >>>>
> >>>> Original:
> >>>> -  Additionally, an iACL may be applied to all nodes (k)
> >>>> provisioning SIDs as defined in this specification:
> >>>>
> >>>> i) Should these uses be made "infrastructure Access Control List
> >>>> (iACL)" on expansion and then "iACL" thereafter?  Note that we
> >>>> see "Infrastructure Access Control List (iACL)" used in RFCs 7404 and 9098.
> >>>>
> >>>> ii) Or perhaps "infrastructure Access Control List (ACL)" on
> >>>> expansion as used in RFCs 6752 and 9252 (and "infrastructure ACL
> >> thereafter")?
> >>>>
> >>>> iii) Or maybe we should switch to using "Infrastructure Access
> >>>> Control List (IACL)" with a 1:1 between the expansion and the
> >>>> initialism and corresponding capitalization?  This form has not
> >>>> appeared in any published RFCs to date, but if this is how people
> >>>> know it,
> >> then perhaps this is the way to go in the future?
> >>>>
> >>>> We appreciate any guidance you may have.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> [RP] I don't think there is an established terminology for ACL and
> >>> lowercase
> >> "i" or uppercase "I" do not make a difference. It should be fine to
> >> use using "Infrastructure Access Control List (IACL)".
> >>>> -->
> >>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>> Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but
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> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>> RFC9524 (draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment-19)
> >>>>
> >>>> Title            : SR Replication segment for Multi-point Service Delivery
> >>>> Author(s)        : D. Voyer, Ed., C. Filsfils, R. Parekh, H. Bidgoli, Z. Zhang
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