Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9552 <draft-ietf-idr-rfc7752bis-17> for your review
Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com> Tue, 19 December 2023 21:13 UTC
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Subject: Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9552 <draft-ietf-idr-rfc7752bis-17> for your review
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Hi Ketan, As IANA actions are now done, we consider AUTH48 complete: https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9552 Thank you for your attention and guidance during the AUTH48 process. We will move this document forward in the publication process at this time. Best regards, RFC Editor/ap > On Dec 19, 2023, at 12:21 PM, David Dong via RT <iana-matrix@iana.org> wrote: > > Hi Alanna, > > These changes are complete; please see: > > https://www.iana.org/assignments/bgp-ls-parameters/ > > Best regards, > > David Dong > IANA Services Sr. Specialist > > On Tue Dec 19 17:49:55 2023, apaloma@amsl.com wrote: >> IANA, >> >> Please make the following updates to the “BGP-LS NLRI and Attribute >> TLVs” registry <https://www.iana.org/assignments/bgp-ls- >> parameters/bgp-ls-parameters.xhtml#node-descriptor-link-descriptor- >> prefix-descriptor-attribute-tlv> to match the edited document at >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9552-diff.html >> >> 1) Expand “ID” to be “Identifier” in the Description column of code >> point 263. >> 2) Update the section citation from Section 5.2.3 to Section 5.2.3.1 >> for code point 264. >> 3) Update the section citation from Section 5.2.3 to Section 5.2.3.2 >> for code point 265. >> 4) Add “(deprecated)” to the Description column of code point 513. >> >> Old: >> TLV Code Point Description >> Reference >> 263 Multi-Topology ID >> [RFC-ietf-idr-rfc7752bis-16, Section 5.2.2.1] >> 264 OSPF Route Type >> [RFC-ietf-idr-rfc7752bis-16, Section 5.2.3] >> 265 IP Reachability Information >> [RFC-ietf-idr-rfc7752bis-16, Section 5.2.3] >> 513 BGP-LS Identifier >> [RFC-ietf-idr-rfc7752bis-16, Section 5.2.1.4] >> >> New: >> TLV Code Point Description >> Reference >> 263 Multi-Topology Identifier >> [RFC-ietf-idr-rfc7752bis-16, Section 5.2.2.1] >> 264 OSPF Route Type >> [RFC-ietf-idr-rfc7752bis-16, Section 5.2.3.1] >> 265 IP Reachability Information >> [RFC-ietf-idr-rfc7752bis-16, Section 5.2.3.2] >> 513 BGP-LS Identifier (deprecated) [RFC- >> ietf-idr-rfc7752bis-16, Section 5.2.1.4] >> >> Thank you, >> RFC Editor/ap >> >>> On Dec 18, 2023, at 10:20 PM, Ketan Talaulikar >>> <ketant.ietf@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Alanna, >>> >>> Thanks for the updates and please consider this email as my approval >>> for publication. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Ketan >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 1:02 AM Alanna Paloma <apaloma@amsl.com> >>> wrote: >>> Hi Ketan, >>> >>> Thank you for your reply. We have updated as requested. >>> >>> The files have been posted here (please refresh): >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9552.xml >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9552.txt >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9552.html >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9552.pdf >>> >>> The relevant diff files have been posted here: >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9552-diff.html (comprehensive >>> diff) >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9552-auth48diff.html (AUTH48 >>> changes) >>> >>> Please review the document carefully and contact us with any further >>> updates you may have. Note that we do not make changes once a >>> document is published as an RFC. >>> >>> We will await approvals from each party listed on the AUTH48 status >>> page below prior to moving this document forward in the publication >>> process. >>> >>> For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see: >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9552 >>> >>> Thank you, >>> RFC Editor/ap >>> >>>> On Dec 18, 2023, at 5:40 AM, Ketan Talaulikar >>>> <ketant.ietf@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Also, some additional comments/questions on the diff itself. >>>> >>>> 1) Sec 2.1 replaces "the IGP" with "IGP" - "the IGP" refers to >>>> either OSPF or ISIS. Just wondering if "the" is not really needed >>>> here? There are a few other similar usages in the rest of the >>>> document as well (5.2.2, 5.3.1.4, 5.3.2.1, 5.6). >>>> >>>> 2) Sec 4 there is a change from "max-aged" to "at the max age" - >>>> this change is inappropriate. We can perhaps replace "max-aged" >>>> with "aged out". >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Ketan >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 6:50 PM Ketan Talaulikar >>>> <ketant.ietf@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> Thanks for your help with this document. Please check inline below >>>> for responses. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 7:45 AM <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org> wrote: >>>> Ketan, >>>> >>>> While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as >>>> necessary) >>>> the following questions, which are also in the XML file. >>>> >>>> 1) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that >>>> appear in >>>> the title) for use on https://www.rfc-editor.org/search. --> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2) <!--[rfced] In the sentence below, does "that requires CPU- >>>> intensive >>>> or coordinated computations" refer to "Path Computation Element >>>> (CPE)"? >>>> >>>> Original: >>>> The IETF has defined the Path Computation Element (PCE) >>>> [RFC4655] as >>>> a mechanism for achieving the computation of end-to-end TE paths >>>> that >>>> cross the visibility of more than one TED or that requires CPU- >>>> intensive or coordinated computations. >>>> >>>> Perhaps: >>>> The IETF has defined the Path Computation Element (PCE) >>>> [RFC4655] as >>>> a mechanism for achieving the computation of end-to-end TE paths >>>> that >>>> cross the visibility of more than one TED. The PCE also requires >>>> CPU- >>>> intensive or coordinated computations. >>>> --> >>>> >>>> KT> The original text is more appropriate. The "cross the >>>> KT> visibility of more than one TED" and "requires CPU-intensive >>>> KT> or coordinated computations" are the two OR clauses referring >>>> KT> to "the computation of end-to-end TE paths". >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 3) <!--[rfced] We do not see any mentions of "loose-hop-expansion" >>>> in >>>> RFC 3209. We note that the document includes instances of "loose >>>> hop", >>>> but there are no occurrences of "expansion". Please review and let >>>> us >>>> know if the citation requires any updates. >>>> >>>> Original: >>>> Per-domain path >>>> computation uses a technique called "loose-hop-expansion" >>>> [RFC3209] >>>> and selects the exit ABR and other ABRs or AS Border Routers >>>> (ASBRs) >>>> using the IGP-computed shortest path topology for the remainder >>>> of >>>> the path. >>>> --> >>>> >>>> KT> How about the following: >>>> Per-domain path >>>> computation selects the exit ABR and other ABRs or AS Border >>>> Routers (ASBRs) >>>> as loose-hops [RFC3209] and using the IGP-computed shortest path >>>> topology for the >>>> remainder of the path. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 4) <!--[rfced] May we update the commas in this list as follows? >>>> >>>> Original: >>>> (2) a BGP >>>> path attribute (BGP-LS Attribute) that carries properties of the >>>> link, node, or prefix objects such as the link and prefix metric >>>> or >>>> auxiliary Router-IDs of nodes, etc. >>>> >>>> Perhaps: >>>> (2) a BGP >>>> path attribute (BGP-LS Attribute) that carries properties of the >>>> link, node, or prefix objects such as the link and prefix >>>> metric, >>>> auxiliary Router-IDs of nodes, etc. >>>> --> >>>> >>>> KT> Yes >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 5) <!-- [rfced] Tables 3 and 18 have entries for the following: >>>> >>>> 513 | BGP-LS Identifier (deprecated) >>>> >>>> Should the entry be marked as deprecated in the IANA registry >>>> <https://www.iana.org/assignments/bgp-ls-parameters/bgp-ls- >>>> parameters.xhtml#node-descriptor-link-descriptor-prefix-descriptor- >>>> attribute-tlv>? >>>> --> >>>> >>>> KT> Yes >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 6) <!--[rfced] The sentences below read awkwardly with "direct or >>>> static". >>>> Please review and let us know if/how they may be updated. >>>> >>>> Original: >>>> This is a mandatory TLV when >>>> originating information from IS-IS, OSPF, direct or static. >>>> ... >>>> When the node is running an IGP protocol, >>>> an implementation MAY choose to use the IGP Router-ID for direct >>>> or static. >>>> >>>> Perhaps: >>>> This is a mandatory TLV when >>>> originating information from IS-IS, OSPF, 'Direct', or 'Static >>>> configuration'. >>>> ... >>>> When the node is running an IGP protocol, >>>> an implementation MAY choose to use the IGP Router-ID for >>>> 'Direct' >>>> or 'Static configuration'. >>>> --> >>>> >>>> KT> Looks better indeed. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 7) <!-- [rfced] There is a slight difference between the sections >>>> referenced in Tables 5 and 18. The reference in the IANA registry >>>> matches >>>> what appears in Table 18. Should the section references be updated >>>> for >>>> consistency? Perhaps they should match what appears Table 5? >>>> >>>> Table 5 (Section 5.2.3): >>>> | 264 | OSPF Route Type | 1 | Section >>>> | >>>> | | | | 5.2.3.1 >>>> | >>>> | 265 | IP Reachability | variable | Section >>>> | >>>> | | Information | | 5.2.3.2 >>>> | >>>> >>>> >>>> Table 18 (Section 9): >>>> | 264 | OSPF Route Type | Section 5.2.3 >>>> | >>>> | 265 | IP Reachability | Section 5.2.3 >>>> | >>>> | | Information | >>>> | >>>> --> >>>> >>>> KT> Good catch. Table 5 is indeed correct and the others have wrong >>>> KT> section references for these TLVs. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 8) <!--[rfced] We note that Figure 13 includes a field called >>>> "Route >>>> Type". Should "OSPF" be removed from this text that precedes Figure >>>> 13? >>>> >>>> Original: >>>> The OSPF Route Type field follows the route types defined in the >>>> OSPF >>>> protocol and can be one of the following: >>>> >>>> Perhaps: >>>> The Route Type field follows the route types defined in the OSPF >>>> protocol and can be one of the following: >>>> --> >>>> >>>> KT> We could not fit "OSPF Route Type" in that figure with the 8- >>>> KT> bit width and hence it was abbreviated to "Route Type". We can >>>> KT> use "Route Type" in the text as well to be consistent. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 9) <!-- [rfced] The following appears in Table 7: >>>> >>>> | 'T' | Attached Bit | [ISO10589] | >>>> >>>> The following appears in Table 14: >>>> >>>> | 1 | Attached Bit (A-bit) | RFC 9552 | >>>> >>>> Should Table 7 be updated to reflect 'A' in the Bit column? >>>> --> >>>> >>>> KT> Yes >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 10) <!--[rfced] To parallel the fields of other figures, should >>>> "Opaque >>>> node attributes" and "Opaque link attributes" be capitalized in >>>> Figures 18 and 23, respectively? >>>> >>>> Original: >>>> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- >>>> +-+ >>>> // Opaque node attributes (variable) >>>> // >>>> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- >>>> +-+ >>>> >>>> Figure 18: Opaque Node Attribute Format >>>> >>>> >>>> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >>>> // Opaque link attributes (variable) // >>>> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >>>> >>>> Figure 23: Opaque Link Attribute TLV Format >>>> --> >>>> >>>> KT> Yes >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 11) <!--[rfced] Should the parentheses around "SRLG" proceeding >>>> "IPv4" >>>> be removed to parallel "SRLG" proceeding "IPv6"? >>>> >>>> Original: >>>> In IS-IS, the SRLG >>>> information is carried in two different TLVs: the IPv4 (SRLG) >>>> TLV >>>> (Type 138) defined in [RFC5307] and the IPv6 SRLG TLV (Type 139) >>>> defined in [RFC6119]. >>>> >>>> Perhaps: >>>> In IS-IS, the SRLG >>>> information is carried in two different TLVs: the IPv4 SRLG TLV >>>> (Type 138) defined in [RFC5307] and the IPv6 SRLG TLV (Type 139) >>>> defined in [RFC6119]. >>>> --> >>>> >>>> KT> Actually these are the GMPLS-SRLG TLV (for IPv4) (Type 138) >>>> KT> defined in [RFC5307] and the IPv6 SRLG TLV (Type 139) defined >>>> KT> in [RFC6119]. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 12) <!--[rfced] We note that the "local address" bit listed in RFC >>>> 5340 >>>> lists the bit value as "LA-bit". Should "L" (Table 11) be updated >>>> to "LA-bit"? >>>> --> >>>> >>>> KT> Not needed. We can keep as is since they are separate protocols >>>> KT> (BGP-LS and OSPF) and this is a bis RFC. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 13) <!--[rfced] May we update instances of "Extened IGP Route Tag" >>>> to be >>>> "IGP Extened Route Tag" to reflect the defined code point in IANA's >>>> "BGP-LS NLRI and Attribute TLVs" registry? If yes, these updates >>>> will >>>> be made in Section 5.3.3.3. >>>> --> >>>> >>>> KT> Yes. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 14) <!--[rfced] May we update the sentence below to improve >>>> readability? >>>> >>>> Original: >>>> An originating router shall use this TLV for encoding >>>> information >>>> specific to the protocol advertised in the NLRI header Protocol- >>>> ID >>>> field or new protocol extensions to the protocol as advertised >>>> in the >>>> NLRI header Protocol-ID field for which there is no protocol- >>>> neutral >>>> representation in the BGP Link-State NLRI. >>>> >>>> Perhaps: >>>> An originating router shall use this TLV for encoding >>>> information >>>> specific to the protocol advertised in the NLRI header Protocol- >>>> ID >>>> field or it shall use new protocol extensions for the protocol >>>> as >>>> advertised in the NLRI header Protocol-ID field for which there >>>> is no >>>> protocol-neutral representation in the BGP Link-State NLRI. >>>> --> >>>> >>>> KT> Yes >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 15) <!--[rfced] FYI, we've updated "E-AS-External-Prefix-LSA" to >>>> "E-AS-External-LSA" to match what appears in Section 4.5 of RFC >>>> 8362. >>>> Please let us know of any concerns. >>>> >>>> Original: >>>> In the case of OSPFv3, this >>>> TLV MUST NOT be used to advertise TLVs other than those in the >>>> OSPFv3 >>>> E-Inter-Area-Prefix-LSA, E-Intra-Area-Prefix-LSA, E-AS-External- >>>> Prefix-LSA, and E-NSSA-LSA [RFC8362]. >>>> >>>> Current: >>>> In the case of OSPFv3, this >>>> TLV MUST NOT be used to advertise TLVs other than those in the >>>> OSPFv3 >>>> E-Inter-Area-Prefix-LSA, E-Intra-Area-Prefix-LSA, E-AS-External- >>>> LSA, >>>> and E-NSSA-LSA [RFC8362]. >>>> --> >>>> >>>> KT> Yes >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 16) <!--[rfced] May we update this sentence as follows for clarity? >>>> >>>> Original: >>>> Consider a point-to-point link between two routers, A and B, >>>> that >>>> initially were OSPFv2-only routers and then IS-IS is enabled on >>>> them. >>>> >>>> Perhaps: >>>> Consider a point-to-point link between two routers, A and B, >>>> which >>>> initially were OSPFv2-only routers and then had IS-IS enabled on >>>> them. >>>> --> >>>> >>>> KT> Yes >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 17) <!-- [rfced] Terminology >>>> >>>> a) Throughout the text, the following terminology appears to be >>>> used >>>> inconsistently. Please review these occurrences and let us know >>>> if/how they >>>> may be made consistent. >>>> >>>> Broadcast LAN / broadcast LAN >>>> Multi-Topology ID / Multi-Topology Identifier >>>> Node Name / node name >>>> Route Reflector / route reflector >>>> >>>> KT> The 2nd one (on the right) for all of the above >>>> >>>> >>>> b) To parallel RFC 7752, may we update the following terms to the >>>> ones >>>> listed on the left. >>>> >>>> link-local IPv6 address / IPv6 link-local address >>>> path attribute length / Path Attribute Length >>>> >>>> KT> The 2nd ones (on the right) are more appropriate >>>> >>>> >>>> c) FYI, we made the following terms capitalized for consistency to >>>> parallel >>>> other BGP terminology. Please review and let us know if further >>>> updates >>>> are necessary. >>>> >>>> BGP Attribute >>>> BGP Decision Process >>>> BGP Next-Hop >>>> -> does this always refer to the attribute? >>>> >>>> KT> Only in sec 5.5 where it correct to capitalize it. >>>> >>>> BGP Speaker >>>> >>>> BGP-LS Attribute >>>> BGP-LS Speaker >>>> --> >>>> >>>> KT> Yes >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 18) <!-- [rfced] FYI - We have added expansions for the following >>>> abbreviations per Section 3.6 of RFC 7322 ("RFC Style Guide"). >>>> Please >>>> review each expansion in the document carefully to ensure >>>> correctness. >>>> >>>> Not-So-Stubby Area (NSSA) >>>> Provider Edge (PE) >>>> RSVP - Fast Reroute (RSVP-FRR) >>>> --> >>>> >>>> KT> Yes >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 19) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of >>>> the >>>> online Style Guide <https://www.rfc- >>>> editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language> >>>> and let us know if any changes are needed. >>>> >>>> Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but this >>>> should >>>> still be reviewed as a best practice. >>>> --> >>>> >>>> KT> Ack >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Ketan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> RFC Editor >>>> >>>> On Dec 15, 2023, at 6:10 PM, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org wrote: >>>> >>>> *****IMPORTANT***** >>>> >>>> Updated 2023/12/15 >>>> >>>> RFC Author(s): >>>> -------------- >>>> >>>> Instructions for Completing AUTH48 >>>> >>>> Your document has now entered AUTH48. 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