Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and making up my mind
Thomas Heide Clausen <thomas@thomasclausen.org> Wed, 28 October 2009 09:22 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and making up my mind
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Without making any comments on the quality and interest in general of raft-bernardos-manet-autoconf-survey, the [autoconf] wg is not chartered to provide a survey of protocols representing a "snapshot at a given time". We're at a juncture where the choices are either (a) pulling the plug on the WG or (b) making progress on the charter item. Note that "adopting new work directions" are not among the choices. Thomas On Oct 28, 2009, at 9:56 AM, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: > YEs, I support this draft draft-bernardos-manet-autoconf-survey-04 > to become a WG item. > > It is a comprehensive overview of past descriptions of > autoconfiguration mechanisms. > > Once it is a WG item I will have more remarks on it. > > I will not condition the adoption of this WG item by the deadline of > when we start to work because this WG already has many WG items > about which I am not sure whether they have been adopted or not by > the WG. > > This draft is good work which should be adopted. It should have > been adopted long time in the past. If this WG wanted to deliver > only _one_ WG item then I'd prefer it to be this draft. > > Alex > > Charles E. Perkins a écrit : >> Hello Carlos, >> Yes, it is the same protocol that you described in your draft. >> I think you draft should be considered important background >> material for understanding the issues. >> Once we get to work, that is. >> Regards, >> Charlie P. >> Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano wrote: >>> (text skipped) >>> >>>>> I have to read that solution now. Where is it? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> I'm having a little trouble finding my old documents. >>>> This is work done well over five years ago. >>>> >>>> I'll send another message when I find them. >>>> >>> >>> Maybe it is included in the survey draft we wrote in the past: >>> >>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bernardos-manet-autoconf-survey-04 >>> >>> :-) >>> >>> Otherwise, let me know to include it in future revisions of the >>> draft. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Carlos >>> >>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Charlie P. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> > > > _______________________________________________ > Autoconf mailing list > Autoconf@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/autoconf
- [Autoconf] call for consensus about link local ad… Ryuji Wakikawa
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Ulrich Herberg
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Ulrich Herberg
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Henning Rogge
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Henning Rogge
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Ulrich Herberg
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Henning Rogge
- Re: [Autoconf] A-B-C general versus special (was:… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: [Autoconf] A-B-C general versus special (was:… Henning Rogge
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Ulrich Herberg
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Ulrich Herberg
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Ulrich Herberg
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Henning Rogge
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Stan Ratliff
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Velt, R. (Ronald) in 't
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… mase
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Henning Rogge
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Ulrich Herberg
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Ryuji Wakikawa
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Emmanuel Baccelli
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Stan Ratliff
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Emmanuel Baccelli
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Thomas Narten
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Velt, R. (Ronald) in 't
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Thomas Narten
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Henning Rogge
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Thomas Narten
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… teco
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… teco
- Re: [Autoconf] identifying links for CP's 4 node … Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] dynamically assigning prefixes on … Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] dynamically assigning prefixes on … Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] identifying links for CP's 4 node … Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… teco
- Re: [Autoconf] call for consensus about link loca… Charles E. Perkins
- [Autoconf] [warning -- weeks old mail under discu… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] [warning -- weeks old mail under d… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] [warning -- weeks old mail under d… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] [warning -- weeks old mail under d… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] [warning -- weeks old mail under d… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] [warning -- weeks old mail under d… Ryuji Wakikawa
- Re: [Autoconf] [warning -- weeks old mail under d… Ryuji Wakikawa
- Re: [Autoconf] [warning -- weeks old mail under d… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] [warning -- weeks old mail under d… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] [warning -- weeks old mail under d… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] [warning -- weeks old mail under d… Ryuji Wakikawa
- Re: [Autoconf] [warning -- weeks old mail under d… Ryuji Wakikawa
- Re: [Autoconf] [warning -- weeks old mail under d… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] [warning -- weeks old mail under d… Ryuji Wakikawa
- Re: [Autoconf] [warning -- weeks old mail under d… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] [warning -- weeks old mail under d… Ryuji Wakikawa
- Re: [Autoconf] [warning -- weeks old mail under d… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] [warning -- weeks old mail under d… Ryuji Wakikawa
- Re: [Autoconf] [warning -- weeks old mail under d… Alexandru Petrescu
- [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and makin… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Ryuji Wakikawa
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Ryuji Wakikawa
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Henning Rogge
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Ulrich Herberg
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Ulrich Herberg
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Ulrich Herberg
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Ulrich Herberg
- Re: [Autoconf] IP over "anything" (was: DAD, link… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… sratliff
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Henning Rogge
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… sratliff
- Re: [Autoconf] IP over "anything" Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] IP over "anything" Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] IP over "anything" Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] IP over "anything" Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Charles E. Perkins
- [Autoconf] http://www.psg.com/~charliep/txt/ietf7… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] http://www.psg.com/~charliep/txt/i… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Ryuji Wakikawa
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Thomas Heide Clausen
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Thomas Heide Clausen
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Teco Boot
- [Autoconf] Discussion on draft-baccelli-multi-hop… Thomas Heide Clausen
- Re: [Autoconf] Discussion on draft-baccelli-multi… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] Discussion on draft-baccelli-multi… Ulrich Herberg
- Re: [Autoconf] Discussion on draft-baccelli-multi… Thomas Heide Clausen
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Thomas Heide Clausen
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] DAD, link-locals, two drafts and m… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Autoconf] Discussion on draft-baccelli-multi… Ryuji Wakikawa