Re: [AVTCORE] Spencer Dawkins' Yes on draft-ietf-avtcore-rfc5285-bis-12: (with COMMENT)
Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> Thu, 22 June 2017 02:25 UTC
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From: Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 21:25:47 -0500
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Subject: Re: [AVTCORE] Spencer Dawkins' Yes on draft-ietf-avtcore-rfc5285-bis-12: (with COMMENT)
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Hi, Warren, On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 4:46 PM, Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> wrote: > On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 12:43 PM, Spencer Dawkins at IETF > <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, David, > > > > On Jun 21, 2017 09:42, "David Singer" <singer@apple.com> wrote: > > > > I’m fine with inserting the date, but perhaps more importantly we should > say > > “the pattern was picked for the trivial reason that…” to allay concerns > > about people not understanding… > > > > > > That works for me. > > > > And I'm enjoying the idea of a guy from the 800s being immortalized in an > > RFC in 2017, so please remember that I liked you folks saying it in your > > draft ... > > > > Spencer, who should probably be scanning the list of feast days for folks > > with four-byte names that are valid in hex - there can't be many more, > can > > there? :D > > > > I'm not religious, so I resorted to taking a list of saints from > Wikipedia[0]. > > Taking only "real" hex characters, there are 3: > Acca of Hexham > The Venerable Bede > Cedd > ($ cat saints | egrep -i -o -w '[abcdef][abcdef][abcdef][abcdef]') > > > Adding in some l33tsp33k (because I desperately want to avoid reading > more drafts and so am procrastinating) we get: > > Abbo of Fleury (Abb0) > Saint Abib (Ab1b) > Acca of Hexham (Acca) > Alda (A1da) > Basil the Fool for Christ (F001) > Beatrix d'Este (E57e) > Bede > Cedd > Olaf II of Norway (01af) > Ouen (Dado) (Dad0) > > (cat saints | egrep -i -o -w > '[abcdefiolst][abcdefiolst][abcdefiolst][abcdefiolst]') > > Some of them are, er, contrived, but I got to read about "Basil the > Fool for Christ > "(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basil_Fool_for_Christ), who > 1: has possibly the most awesome name / title ever[1], and > 2: according to Wikipedia (the source of all truth) "adopted an > eccentric lifestyle of shoplifting and giving to the poor to shame the > miserly..." and "went naked and weighed himself down with chains". > > I now *so* want to change my name to "Warren the Fool for <something>" > (suggestions welcome)... Errr, did I mention I'm procrastinating?! > "Warren the Fool for Operations" would even have Nomcom support. This probably needs to come up at the IETF 99 plenary :D Spencer > > W > > [0]: Even if I were religious I would resort to Wikipedia. > [1]: It even sounds like an imperative. > >>> > >>> I meant "the first version of this specification was written on May > 25th, > >>> the feast day of the Venerable Bede". > >>> > >> > >> Well, aren't I a silly bunny? That works, maintains the "joke", and is > >> clear... > >> > >> W > >> > >> > >>> Does it matter? Probably not. > >>> > >>> Do I hope we don't signal to readers of IETF specifications that they > can > >>> skip the parts they don't understand? I do ... > >>> > >>> But do the right thing, of course. > >>> > >>> Spencer > >>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> David Singer > >>> Manager, Software Standards, Apple Inc. > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad > >> idea in the first place. > >> This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing > >> regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair > >> of pants. > >> ---maf > > > > David Singer > > Manager, Software Standards, Apple Inc. > > > > > > > > -- > I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad > idea in the first place. > This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing > regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair > of pants. > ---maf >
- [AVTCORE] Spencer Dawkins' Yes on draft-ietf-avtc… Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [AVTCORE] Spencer Dawkins' Yes on draft-ietf-… David Singer
- Re: [AVTCORE] Spencer Dawkins' Yes on draft-ietf-… Warren Kumari
- Re: [AVTCORE] Spencer Dawkins' Yes on draft-ietf-… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [AVTCORE] Spencer Dawkins' Yes on draft-ietf-… Warren Kumari
- Re: [AVTCORE] Spencer Dawkins' Yes on draft-ietf-… David Singer
- Re: [AVTCORE] Spencer Dawkins' Yes on draft-ietf-… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [AVTCORE] Spencer Dawkins' Yes on draft-ietf-… Warren Kumari
- Re: [AVTCORE] Spencer Dawkins' Yes on draft-ietf-… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [AVTCORE] Spencer Dawkins' Yes on draft-ietf-… Warren Kumari
- Re: [AVTCORE] Spencer Dawkins' Yes on draft-ietf-… Roni Even
- Re: [AVTCORE] Spencer Dawkins' Yes on draft-ietf-… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [AVTCORE] Spencer Dawkins' Yes on draft-ietf-… David Singer
- Re: [AVTCORE] Spencer Dawkins' Yes on draft-ietf-… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [AVTCORE] Spencer Dawkins' Yes on draft-ietf-… Roni Even