Re: [AVTCORE] Spencer Dawkins' Yes on draft-ietf-avtcore-rfc5285-bis-12: (with COMMENT)

Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> Thu, 22 June 2017 02:25 UTC

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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 21:25:47 -0500
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Subject: Re: [AVTCORE] Spencer Dawkins' Yes on draft-ietf-avtcore-rfc5285-bis-12: (with COMMENT)
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Hi, Warren,

On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 4:46 PM, Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 12:43 PM, Spencer Dawkins at IETF
> <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi, David,
> >
> > On Jun 21, 2017 09:42, "David Singer" <singer@apple.com> wrote:
> >
> > I’m fine with inserting the date, but perhaps more importantly we should
> say
> > “the pattern was picked for the trivial reason that…” to allay concerns
> > about people not understanding…
> >
> >
> > That works for me.
> >
> > And I'm enjoying the idea of a guy from the 800s being immortalized in an
> > RFC in 2017, so please remember that I liked you folks saying it in your
> > draft ...
> >
> > Spencer, who should probably be scanning the list of feast days for folks
> > with four-byte names that are valid in hex - there can't be many more,
> can
> > there? :D
> >
>
> I'm not religious, so I resorted to taking a list of saints from
> Wikipedia[0].
>
> Taking only "real" hex characters, there are 3:
> Acca of Hexham
> The Venerable Bede
> Cedd
> ($ cat saints | egrep -i -o -w '[abcdef][abcdef][abcdef][abcdef]')
>
>
> Adding in some l33tsp33k (because I desperately want to avoid reading
> more drafts and so am procrastinating) we get:
>
> Abbo of Fleury (Abb0)
> Saint Abib  (Ab1b)
> Acca of Hexham (Acca)
> Alda (A1da)
> Basil the Fool for Christ (F001)
> Beatrix d'Este (E57e)
> Bede
> Cedd
> Olaf II of Norway (01af)
> Ouen (Dado) (Dad0)
>
> (cat saints | egrep -i -o -w
> '[abcdefiolst][abcdefiolst][abcdefiolst][abcdefiolst]')
>
> Some of them are, er, contrived, but I got to read about "Basil the
> Fool for Christ
> "(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basil_Fool_for_Christ), who
> 1: has possibly the most awesome name / title ever[1], and
> 2: according to Wikipedia (the source of all truth) "adopted an
> eccentric lifestyle of shoplifting and giving to the poor to shame the
> miserly..." and "went naked and weighed himself down with chains".
>
> I now *so* want to change my name to "Warren the Fool for <something>"
> (suggestions welcome)... Errr, did I mention I'm procrastinating?!
>

"Warren the Fool for Operations" would even have Nomcom support.

This probably needs to come up at the IETF 99 plenary :D

Spencer


>
> W
>
> [0]: Even if I were religious I would resort to Wikipedia.
> [1]: It even sounds like an imperative.
> >>>
> >>> I meant "the first version of this specification was written on May
> 25th,
> >>> the feast day of the Venerable Bede".
> >>>
> >>
> >> Well, aren't I a silly bunny? That works, maintains the "joke", and is
> >> clear...
> >>
> >> W
> >>
> >>
> >>> Does it matter? Probably not.
> >>>
> >>> Do I hope we don't signal to readers of IETF specifications that they
> can
> >>> skip the parts they don't understand? I do ...
> >>>
> >>> But do the right thing, of course.
> >>>
> >>> Spencer
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> David Singer
> >>> Manager, Software Standards, Apple Inc.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad
> >> idea in the first place.
> >> This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing
> >> regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair
> >> of pants.
> >>   ---maf
> >
> > David Singer
> > Manager, Software Standards, Apple Inc.
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad
> idea in the first place.
> This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing
> regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair
> of pants.
>    ---maf
>