Re: [AVTCORE] Spencer Dawkins' Yes on draft-ietf-avtcore-rfc5285-bis-12: (with COMMENT)

Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> Thu, 22 June 2017 02:39 UTC

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From: Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net>
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 02:39:09 +0000
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Subject: Re: [AVTCORE] Spencer Dawkins' Yes on draft-ietf-avtcore-rfc5285-bis-12: (with COMMENT)
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On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 10:25 PM Spencer Dawkins at IETF <
spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi, Warren,
>
> On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 4:46 PM, Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 12:43 PM, Spencer Dawkins at IETF
>> <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi, David,
>> >
>> > On Jun 21, 2017 09:42, "David Singer" <singer@apple.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I’m fine with inserting the date, but perhaps more importantly we
>> should say
>> > “the pattern was picked for the trivial reason that…” to allay concerns
>> > about people not understanding…
>> >
>> >
>> > That works for me.
>> >
>> > And I'm enjoying the idea of a guy from the 800s being immortalized in
>> an
>> > RFC in 2017, so please remember that I liked you folks saying it in your
>> > draft ...
>> >
>> > Spencer, who should probably be scanning the list of feast days for
>> folks
>> > with four-byte names that are valid in hex - there can't be many more,
>> can
>> > there? :D
>> >
>>
>> I'm not religious, so I resorted to taking a list of saints from
>> Wikipedia[0].
>>
>> Taking only "real" hex characters, there are 3:
>> Acca of Hexham
>> The Venerable Bede
>> Cedd
>> ($ cat saints | egrep -i -o -w '[abcdef][abcdef][abcdef][abcdef]')
>>
>>
>> Adding in some l33tsp33k (because I desperately want to avoid reading
>> more drafts and so am procrastinating) we get:
>>
>> Abbo of Fleury (Abb0)
>> Saint Abib  (Ab1b)
>> Acca of Hexham (Acca)
>> Alda (A1da)
>> Basil the Fool for Christ (F001)
>> Beatrix d'Este (E57e)
>> Bede
>> Cedd
>> Olaf II of Norway (01af)
>> Ouen (Dado) (Dad0)
>>
>> (cat saints | egrep -i -o -w
>> '[abcdefiolst][abcdefiolst][abcdefiolst][abcdefiolst]')
>>
>> Some of them are, er, contrived, but I got to read about "Basil the
>> Fool for Christ
>> "(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basil_Fool_for_Christ), who
>> 1: has possibly the most awesome name / title ever[1], and
>> 2: according to Wikipedia (the source of all truth) "adopted an
>> eccentric lifestyle of shoplifting and giving to the poor to shame the
>> miserly..." and "went naked and weighed himself down with chains".
>>
>> I now *so* want to change my name to "Warren the Fool for <something>"
>> (suggestions welcome)... Errr, did I mention I'm procrastinating?!
>>
>
> "Warren the Fool for Operations" would even have Nomcom support.
>

WFM.

W



> This probably needs to come up at the IETF 99 plenary :D
>
> Spencer
>
>
>>
>> W
>>
>> [0]: Even if I were religious I would resort to Wikipedia.
>> [1]: It even sounds like an imperative.
>
> >>>
>>
>
>> >>> I meant "the first version of this specification was written on May
>> 25th,
>> >>> the feast day of the Venerable Bede".
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Well, aren't I a silly bunny? That works, maintains the "joke", and is
>> >> clear...
>> >>
>> >> W
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Does it matter? Probably not.
>> >>>
>> >>> Do I hope we don't signal to readers of IETF specifications that they
>> can
>> >>> skip the parts they don't understand? I do ...
>> >>>
>> >>> But do the right thing, of course.
>> >>>
>> >>> Spencer
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>> David Singer
>> >>> Manager, Software Standards, Apple Inc.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad
>> >> idea in the first place.
>> >> This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing
>> >> regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair
>> >> of pants.
>> >>   ---maf
>> >
>> > David Singer
>> > Manager, Software Standards, Apple Inc.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad
>> idea in the first place.
>> This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing
>> regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair
>> of pants.
>>    ---maf
>>
> --
I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad idea in
the first place.
This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing
regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair of
pants.
   ---maf