Re: [AVTCORE] Mail regarding draft-ietf-avtcore-mprtp

Joerg Ott <ott@in.tum.de> Tue, 29 November 2022 16:54 UTC

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Subject: Re: [AVTCORE] Mail regarding draft-ietf-avtcore-mprtp
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Speaking for the authors: we ran out of resources (read: cycles to
spare with all of us moving around), not really out of interest :-)

There is renewed interest among some folks in my team now, and we
got diverse practical needs.  Checking with the other co-authors
in the meantime.

Jörg

On 29.11.22 17:49, Jonathan Lennox wrote:
> The draft was dropped because the authors who had been working on it lost interest in the work, and no one volunteered to pick it up to finish it.
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> If there’s renewed interest in the work, and volunteers to take up the authorship of the document, it would be possible for the working group to adopt it again.
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> (Although, at this point - speaking as an individual, not as the chair - it might be more worthwhile to use RTP over QUIC with QUIC multi-path, both of which are existing works in progress, rather than define a dedicated multi-path RTP solution which might have less widespread adoption.)
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>> On Nov 28, 2022, at 12:43 AM, 杨馥榕(LIP6) <furong.yang@lip6.fr> wrote:
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>> Dear all,
>>     I am currently searching for some multi-path transport solutions for real-time media streaming and I have found this expired draft.
>>     It seems interesting and valuable for having a multi-path extension for RTP, but the avtcore WG decided to abandon it. If possible, could someone who knows the history of this draft share a little bit of information about why the WG decided to stop working on it?
>>     Thanks a lot.
>> Best regards,
>> Furong Yang
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