Re: [AVTCORE] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4733 (3451)

Marc Petit-Huguenin <petithug@acm.org> Wed, 16 January 2013 16:45 UTC

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On 01/15/2013 08:54 AM, Magnus Westerlund wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> (As Individual)
> 
> Are we certain that the RTP payload format will never be sent over two 
> different but linked SSRCs to the original audio. There is such a use case
> (See RFC 3388) where DTMF and original audio are sent in two different RTP
> sessions and thus with different SSRCs (although, they could have the same
> number for binding reasons). I fear the proposed corrected text is to
> restrictive.

Right.  I propose this:

Named telephone events are carried as part of the audio stream and if they use
the same SSRC (therefore the same timing and sequence number space), they MUST
use the same timestamp clock rate as the regular audio channel to simplify the
generation of audio waveforms at a gateway.

> 
> Cheers
> 
> Magnus
> 
> On 2013-01-11 14:24, RFC Errata System wrote:
>> 
>> The following errata report has been submitted for RFC4733, "RTP Payload
>> for DTMF Digits, Telephony Tones, and Telephony Signals".
>> 
>> -------------------------------------- You may review the report below
>> and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=4733&eid=3451
>> 
>> -------------------------------------- Type: Technical Reported by:
>> Xavier Marjou <xavier.marjou@orange.com>
>> 
>> Section: 2.1
>> 
>> Original Text ------------- Named telephone events are carried as part of
>> the audio stream and MUST use the same sequence number and timestamp base
>> as the regular audio channel to simplify the generation of audio
>> waveforms at a gateway.
>> 
>> Corrected Text -------------- Named telephone events are carried as part
>> of the audio stream and MUST use the same SSRC (therefore the same timing
>> and sequence number space) and the same timestamp clock rate as the
>> regular audio channel to simplify the generation of audio waveforms at a 
>> gateway.
>> 
>> Notes ----- RFC4733 was written in a way to avoid the multiple clock-rate
>> problem by mandating the use of the same SSRC for DTMF and audio. However
>> it's not explicitly written, which brings an ambiguity. It was commented
>> that RFC4733 needs to be updated. (c.f.
>> http://tools.ietf.org/wg/avtext/minutes?item=minutes-85-avtext.html)
>> 
>> Instructions: ------------- This errata is currently posted as
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>> necessary.
>> 
>> -------------------------------------- RFC4733
>> (draft-ietf-avt-rfc2833bis-15) -------------------------------------- 
>> Title               : RTP Payload for DTMF Digits, Telephony Tones, and
>> Telephony Signals Publication Date    : December 2006 Author(s)
>> : H. Schulzrinne, T. Taylor Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD 
>> Source              : Audio/Video Transport Area                :
>> Real-time Applications and Infrastructure Stream              : IETF 
>> Verifying Party     : IESG 
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