[AVT] Issues for the file format for EVRC/SMV vocoder
"Adam Li" <adamli@icsl.ucla.edu> Sun, 16 March 2003 18:59 UTC
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From: Adam Li <adamli@icsl.ucla.edu>
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Subject: [AVT] Issues for the file format for EVRC/SMV vocoder
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Hi folks, The topic of the file format for EVRC/SMV vocoders hopefully will be discussed in this meeting at San Francisco. Below is a list of the issues that might be related to this topic. They are listed here as potential issues for you to consider before the discussion at the meeting. (1) Technically differences. Is there much difference in efficiency and performance between the format in draft-ietf-avt-evrc-smv and draft-garudadri-qcp? Are the differences simply on the file syntax? (2) Completeness. For EVRC codec data, formats defined in both document can handle it. For SMV codec data, the format defined in draft-ietf-avt-evrc-smv is currently the only file format that handles SMV data. draft-garudadri-qcp does not handle SMV at this time. (3) Maturity of the format definition. draft-ietf-avt-evrc-smv has its first version submitted to AVT on November 2000. It has been actively worked on all these years, and is co-authored by people from seven companies and universities. It is currently on the RFC editor's queue. draft-garudadri-qcp is submitted in February 2003. Will there be concerns about the maturity of the drafts, particularly the handling of SMV codec hasn't been written in the later draft yet? (4) The recognition. Since EVRC and SMV codec are designed in 3GPP2 for their CDMA networks, formats recognized by them are likely to be the most widely used format for those codecs. Which of the formats, as defined in draft-ietf-avt-evrc-smv and draft-garudadri-qcp, has been considered by 3GPP2 for the format for storing EVRC and SMV data? (5) Document organization. Even though this is a rather minor point, but would there be enough reasons to trade-off for the additional complexity for having the MIME registration of EVRC/SMV refering to a separate and yet to be complete draft? Draft-ietf-avt-evrc-smv is currently on the RFC editor's queue. If we want to consider deleting the file format that is in the draft for almost two years in the last minute before it becomes an RFC and using another yet to be complete new draft instead, we should be providing ourselves with the clear justification for doing so. I will not be there for the discussion unfortunately since I have not made the plan to attend in advance. However, I hope the list of potential issues above might be useful for us to discuss and consider. Wish we have a fruitful meeting in San Francisco. Adam _______________________________________________ Audio/Video Transport Working Group avt@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/avt
- [AVT] File format for EVRC/SMV vocoder Adam Li
- [AVT] File format for EVRC/SMV vocoder Adam Li
- [AVT] RE: File format for EVRC/SMV vocoder keith.miller
- Re: [AVT] File format for EVRC/SMV vocoder Mark Baugher
- RE: [AVT] File format for EVRC/SMV vocoder Lars-Erik Jonsson (EAB)
- RE: [AVT] File format for EVRC/SMV vocoder Harinath Garudadri
- Re: [AVT] File format for EVRC/SMV vocoder Harinath Garudadri
- Re: [AVT] File format for EVRC/SMV vocoder Mark Baugher
- RE: [AVT] File format for EVRC/SMV vocoder Randall Gellens
- RE: [AVT] File format for EVRC/SMV vocoder Lars-Erik Jonsson (EAB)
- [AVT] Issues for the file format for EVRC/SMV voc… Adam Li
- [AVT] Re: Issues for the file format for EVRC/SMV… Randall Gellens
- RE: [AVT] File format for EVRC/SMV vocoder Randall Gellens
- RE: [AVT] File format for EVRC/SMV vocoder Harinath Garudadri
- Re: [AVT] Re: Issues for the file format for EVRC… Jae-Yong Lee
- RE: [AVT] File format for EVRC/SMV vocoder Pete McCann
- RE: [AVT] File format for EVRC/SMV vocoder Jae-Yong Lee
- RE: [AVT] File format for EVRC/SMV vocoder Jae-Yong Lee
- RE: [AVT] File format for EVRC/SMV vocoder Stephen Casner
- RE: [AVT] File format for EVRC/SMV vocoder Dave Singer