Re: [avtext] Kathleen Moriarty's No Objection on draft-ietf-avtext-splicing-notification-07: (with COMMENT)

"Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)" <ietf@kuehlewind.net> Mon, 20 June 2016 10:29 UTC

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Subject: Re: [avtext] Kathleen Moriarty's No Objection on draft-ietf-avtext-splicing-notification-07: (with COMMENT)
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Hi Colin,

see below.

> Am 16.06.2016 um 00:34 schrieb Colin Perkins <csp@csperkins.org>:
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>> On 15 Jun 2016, at 19:37, Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Kathleen Moriarty has entered the following ballot position for
>> draft-ietf-avtext-splicing-notification-07: No Objection
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>> I strongly support Mirja's and Alia's discuss points and would like to
>> see more of a discussion of the capability to hide splicing in the
>> security considerations text.  My ballot would be discuss, but they
>> pulled out the relevant sections and that would be duplication.  I'd like
>> to review agreed upon text though to address these concerns.  
>> 
>> I don't like the idea of enabling a MiTM, but do see the draft talks
>> about how to protect headers when this happens and confidentiality is
>> needed as well as session protection between the endpoints and the
>> splicer (which I don't like either, but you do call out the security
>> considerations of this and that's what is needed).
> 
> The mechanism described doesn’t work unless the receiver explicitly chooses to receive media content delivered via the splicer. I agree that the draft could be more clearly written, but it doesn’t seem to be “enabling a MiTM” attack, since the receiver opts in.

This definitely need from clarification in the draft!

Mirja


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